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Your brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of cognitive debt when using an AI assistant

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Re: Your brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of cognitive debt when using an AI assistant

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Post by mikemarsh »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #370
mikemarsh wrote: post #299

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It's not about "Pathologising those who disagree", it's about how demonic influence (which anyone can fall victim to) _actually_ works. You've highlighted a very real equivalency in spite of yourself.

> demonic influence Is this an unironic usage of this word? If you're trying to make a different point, it doesn't come across. > You've highlighted a very real equivalency in spite of yourself The equivalence doesn't help you, because "possessed by demons" has been used to describe people who are sick, playing D&D, reading comics, listening to music, being women, and it is frivolous and embarrassing to take seriousl…

Getting your definitions and worldview from 20th-21st century reactions (many justified) against goofy evangelicalism rather than actual theology and history is likewise frivolous and embarrassing.

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Post by EagnaIonat »

mannanj wrote: post #508
EagnaIonat wrote: post #89

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> CDC/FDA discouraged, then flip-flopped and took credit for these things There is a documentary called "Everything under control". In it they explained why this happened. Basically they were scared that the public were going to buy out the masks that were needed by medical staff. > Ivermectin Same documentary, this was started by Musk. It does nothing and is dangerous.

Thanks. Do you mean the Totally Under Control documentary from 2020? One question, have you ever considered the opposite of what you're saying to be true, or looked for the evidence for that? Saying because I've heard of and looked at both opinions you've expressed in your comment and heard and seen evidence for them to be true. I also did the opposite. And looking at the opposite seemed more true objectively and wit…

> Do you mean the Totally Under Control documentary from 2020?

Yea sorry I was recalling from memory.

> One question, have you ever considered the opposite of what you're saying to be true, or looked for the evidence for that?

I look at what the scientists who have spent years in that field are saying and is peer reviewed.

You go searching on the internet for the answer you expect, you will find it.

> authority bias

Authority bias is where an expert in field X claims to have knowledge in field Y when they don't.

Re: Your brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of cognitive debt when using an AI assistant

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Post by mannanj »

EagnaIonat wrote: post #522
mannanj wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. Do you mean the Totally Under Control documentary from 2020? One question, have you ever considered the opposite of what you're saying to be true, or looked for the evidence for that? Saying because I've heard of and looked at both opinions you've expressed in your comment and heard and seen evidence for them to be true. I also did the opposite. And looking at the opposite seemed more true objectively and wit…

> Do you mean the Totally Under Control documentary from 2020? Yea sorry I was recalling from memory. > One question, have you ever considered the opposite of what you're saying to be true, or looked for the evidence for that? I look at what the scientists who have spent years in that field are saying and is peer reviewed. You go searching on the internet for the answer you expect, you will find it. > authority bias…

Absolutely not. Looks like your memory is playing tricks on you again.

| Authority Bias: The cognitive tendency to overvalue the opinion of an authority figure or expert

lets not make up definitions for your own convenience.

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Post by mannanj »

greggoB wrote: post #513
mannanj wrote: post #512

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You misrepresented my position to make it easier to attack. When I brought up the position(s) that people who asked questions or were curious about certain topics got shut down and labeled as having psychosis you responded with bringing is a representation of my position as vaccine skepticism. I remember hearing about psychosis in popular mainstream media. Look I can see you have a strong opinion and belief system ar…

> You misrepresented my position to make it easier to attack. I said "is sounding like", not "is", obviously signaling I was making an assumption, which you were free to correct. Given your diatribe that followed, I don't think I was far off the mark though. > people who asked questions or were curious about certain topics got shut down This is a very common phrasing from those in conspiracy-theory land - I've seen t…

You haven't taken responsibility for your hostile, ad hominem style and straw man responses though. Why would I share anything with someone who engages me with that close-mindedness and uses and brings in words like "flat-earthers", "vaccine hesitancy" and all the other common psychosis and just plain ignorant and hostile words that color the conversation into a biased land?

No thanks. I can get that ignorance on Fox News or Cable television mainstream media. I've heard it all. It does nothing for me.

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Post by mannanj »

greggoB wrote: post #513
mannanj wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You misrepresented my position to make it easier to attack. When I brought up the position(s) that people who asked questions or were curious about certain topics got shut down and labeled as having psychosis you responded with bringing is a representation of my position as vaccine skepticism. I remember hearing about psychosis in popular mainstream media. Look I can see you have a strong opinion and belief system ar…

> You misrepresented my position to make it easier to attack. I said "is sounding like", not "is", obviously signaling I was making an assumption, which you were free to correct. Given your diatribe that followed, I don't think I was far off the mark though. > people who asked questions or were curious about certain topics got shut down This is a very common phrasing from those in conspiracy-theory land - I've seen t…

Sorry if I was the one to bring hostility into this or project. On the other hand, I also feel like what I wanted to talk about and brought up was dismissed and responded to with strong labels which are hostile in nature and shut down open conversation and open thought. I've had enough of and seen this type of personality and attitude enough in my life to just instantly trigger defensiveness to protect myself. I feel I received that from you and it mirrors what I've received my journeys breaking through religion and cult. When I see the pattern I like to call it for what it is.

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Post by EagnaIonat »

mannanj wrote: post #523
EagnaIonat wrote: post #522

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you mean the Totally Under Control documentary from 2020? Yea sorry I was recalling from memory. > One question, have you ever considered the opposite of what you're saying to be true, or looked for the evidence for that? I look at what the scientists who have spent years in that field are saying and is peer reviewed. You go searching on the internet for the answer you expect, you will find it. > authority bias…

Absolutely not. Looks like your memory is playing tricks on you again. | Authority Bias: The cognitive tendency to overvalue the opinion of an authority figure or expert lets not make up definitions for your own convenience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_bias

Authority bias is the cognitive bias where we give disproportionate weight to the opinion of someone perceived as an authority figure, even outside their domain of expertise.

What a lot of people outside the scientific field fail to realise that when a claim is made by an expert in their field, it is peer reviewed and challenged or accepted.

The whole point of science is that you can challenge wrong ideas and change your perspective.

Like I said though. If you are just going to the internet to find something that aligns with what you believe, that isn't peer review.

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Post by mannanj »

EagnaIonat wrote: post #526
mannanj wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely not. Looks like your memory is playing tricks on you again. | Authority Bias: The cognitive tendency to overvalue the opinion of an authority figure or expert lets not make up definitions for your own convenience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_bias Authority bias is the cognitive bias where we give disproportionate weight to the opinion of someone perceived as an authority figure, even outside their domain of expertise. What a lot of people outside the scientific field fail to realise that when a claim is made by an expert in their field, it is peer reviewed and challenged or accepted. The whole point of science is t…

> Authority bias is where an expert in field X claims to have knowledge in field Y when they don't.

Did you not share this above? This contradicts to me your definition here, which is just copying what I shared and stating it as thought its now your opinion. Comes off like gaslighting by the way.

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Post by taco_emoji »

pixl97 wrote: post #348
taco_emoji wrote: post #286

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self-driving cars are only 5 years away, just like 10 years ago

"Airplanes are only 5 years away, just like 10 years ago" --Some guy in 1891. Never use your phrase to say something is impossible. I mean there are driverless Waymo's on the street in my area so your statement is already partially incorrect.

"Flying cars are only 5 years away, just like 10 years ago" --Some guy in 1985
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