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De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Bitcoin

People downvote this but Bitcoin has some very nice properties: - easy to verify/impossible to forge (as opposed to gold and paper currency) - fixed supply (as opposed to paper currency, oil, and even gold) - easy to transfer from one party to another (as opposed to gold, oil, and physical cash)

But Bitcoin is backed by nothing. At least the USD is backed by the sole superpower in the world (at the moment).

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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For those who are not bothering to read this,the article essentially states that de-dollarization is happening in pockets (e.g., reserves down to ~58-60%, Treasuries foreign ownership at 30%), but the dollar's core dominance persists. What would replace it? I guess the options are Yuan, Gold, Oil or maybe BRICS in the future, none of which are safe, stable, and liquid.

I can't believe people actually bring BRICS in serious discussions.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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It’s not just that This is a gradual decline. From 70% in the 90s to 60% today. Today there are more options like the Euro that didn’t exist in the 90s. People can argue over EU economic stability, but it’s there as reasonable option.

As time goes on, fewer people are alive that predate the EU and more people will perceive it as a lasting institution. Additionally, we've now seen the EU survive the departure of a major economic power (the UK). More people are certainly willing to believe in the stability of the EU now. Another major currency is the Yuan, and some countries may be as willing to trade in Yuan to improve relations with China, so perh…

The Yuan is not a freely convertible currency, so not really an option here. The Euro isn't terrible, but it has structural issues in that member states all must take out debt in what is for monetary policy purposes a foreign currency. This generated a debt crisis 10 years ago, which has been papered over, but the structural issues remain unresolved. Also, the Euro has been around now for 25 years. That's not long enough to convince anyone of long term stability.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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The article is written by JP Morgan which is a little odd but even stranger is they mention of all places China as being a great investment place to put your money, when in reality they can literally take your money away from you and nationalize your business under their current laws.

I'm glad you're one of the few to call this out. JPM has hedged its bets against American interests and holds a ton of crypto. Of course they'd put out an article like this

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Mostly an US audience here. A deeply divided country on politics. The wording doesn't help matters either. It's unfortunate the same division tactics the US has been facing are working elsewhere too, however.

Mostly an US audience here. I don't think mostly is true? Obviously it depends a lot on the time of day, but there are also a lot of Europeans on the site. Also, most comments here seem to be critical towards current US policy. So, I think there is quite a lot of manipulation going on, since the downvoting/flagging does not really match the comment section.

I think it's true. There is a significant audience here from other areas but this being an english language forum and one focused on tech means that the US is always going to have a dominant presence[1]. The US dominance also means that the news is highly focused on US events when it wanders out of tech which further reinforced the audience.

1. I believe Canada does have an outsized presence though!

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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For those who are not bothering to read this,the article essentially states that de-dollarization is happening in pockets (e.g., reserves down to ~58-60%, Treasuries foreign ownership at 30%), but the dollar's core dominance persists. What would replace it? I guess the options are Yuan, Gold, Oil or maybe BRICS in the future, none of which are safe, stable, and liquid.

the BRICS Unit was proposed to resolve the "Triffin dilemma", which is that the structural deficit necessary to maintain reserve status inevitably erodes trust in the currency over time. China's economy also relies on exports which would not be helped by reserve status. which is to say an eventual replacement may not be the yuan or any other single currency

Or the Bancor[1], like how Bretton Woods was originally envisioned.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bancor

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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Contrary to what everyone thinks - Dollar losing its reserve currency _canbe_ a good thing. https://www.lynalden.com/fraying-petrodollar-system/

I can't figure out what in that article is supposed to be a good thing, and the article doesn't seem to hold an opinion of that sort.

My first question is: good for whom? Second question is: how? It's definitely good for holders of whatever replaces the dollar, but it's disastrous for everybody in the US, as far as I can tell.

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Paying Chinese companies in RMB isn’t the issue. If I sell something and a Chinese company pays me in RMB, I can’t really do anything with a billion yuan. Can’t buy a company (limitations on foreign ownership), can’t buy property (99-year lease that can be canceled on the whims of the government at any time), can’t buy Chinese debt (terrible yields, very small foreign market access, incredibly opaque laws and account…

What about buying rare earth metals or containers of electronics or purses? It's a bit more work, but it's not impossible to solve the problem. Also, it's not like a 99-year lease has no value. That's your entire lifetime+.

Because if I am running a business I just want to be paid in money that I can pay my bills in. I don't want to have the additional task of managing rare earths and electronics inventory. That's not "a bit more work." It's running an entirely different business that I don't know how to run.

Re: De-dollarization: Is the US dollar losing its dominance? (2025)

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This is a self fulfilling prophecy. It may only be over because the administration is actively trying to create the multi-polar world. It could absolutely be fixed by Congress re-asserting its power.

Something that is “already over” cannot be “un-over”. That’s not how “is already over” works. It means it’s done, finito, not a prophecy but a historical fact. We have to move on. And that means less interference in internal European affairs like Ukraine-Russia and more protection of our interests like consolidation of power over the Atlantic, the Arctic, and the Americas.

You do realize Denmark/Greenland is (well, at least used to be before this circus act) your ally?
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