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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ricardobeat »

iLemming wrote: post #185
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

I have experienced the same, and still have no idea what is going on.

Especially annoying when every app is likely to have single-key shortcuts which end up being accidentally triggered.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by [deleted] »

hahahahhaah wrote: post #475
ryukoposting wrote: post #398

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Apple's worst release in years (maybe ever), Microsoft's worst release in years (maybe ever), meanwhile mainstream Linux UX has been taking baby steps forward on a nearly-daily basis for a decade straight. I'm not saying 2026 is the year, but...

2026 is the year of nothing on the desktop so may as well pick Linux.

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by bschwindHN »

userbinator wrote: post #374
bsimpson wrote: post #123

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The default modality changed. Classic Macs were designed for the mouse or trackball. Modern Macs are designed for multitouch scrolling. When it's easy to get the scrolling infrastructure on demand, the desktop might not need the same click-first affordances.

You're missing the fact that the scrollbars also indicate where you are in their range, which is important regardless of how you do the scrolling itself.

I think their point also covers this - since it's so easy to scroll, you can always just do a little two finger scroll wiggle to have it appear and see where you are. And that's only if you haven't configured it to always display.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by stefanfisk »

halapro wrote: post #431
DonHopkins wrote: post #202

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>"The products suck! There's no sex in them anymore!" Enter "Lickable Pixels" -- the phrase that stuck to describe the Aqua era. Introducing Mac OS X's Aqua interface, Jobs said at Macworld in January 2000: "We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_(user_interface) Then there was the red hot irresistibly sexy and well designed IBM Thinkpad TrackPoint…

To be fair, Liquid Glass is as fuckable as it gets, but please Johnny I'm just trying to do my taxes here.

It has more of a Real Doll vibe to me.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by SanjayMehta »

socalgal2 wrote: post #503
iLemming wrote: post #185

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One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

The support pages are not for you to contact Apple. They are there for users to help other users. The cynical person would say they are there to get unpaid labor from other users so Apple can spend less on support. If you want to report something to Apple you use the "Feedback Assistant App"

The support pages are exactly this. They're called Level 0 support in most companies internally.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by Wilder7977 »

starkparker wrote: post #341
Saline9515 wrote: post #114

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Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

Every 4K external display I've connected to every M1- and M2-series Mac running macOS has a known flickering issue with Display Stream Compression that Apple knows about and has been unable or unwilling to fix. The only reliable fixes are to either disable that DisplayPort feature if your monitor supports it, or to disable GPU Dithering using a paid third-party tool (BetterDisplay). Either that or switch to Asahi, wh…

I have been experiencing this on my 2k monitors as well (Also BENQ). I tried every "fix" under the sun, eventually it stops after enough voodoo (reboots, unplugs) and cursing.

One of the many random issues on the OS with the best UX in the world (lol). Like music sometimes stopping and sometimes switching to speakers when turning off Bluetooth headphones, mouse speed going bananas randomly requiring mouse off and on, terminal app (iterm2) reliably crashing when I dare to change any keybinding, and many other things that never happened in years of working on Linux.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by jahller »

charles_f wrote: post #478
postalcoder wrote: post #330

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The Touch Bar implementation sucked but I'm going to defend that attempt 100 out of 100 times. If Apple didn't remove the function keys I think it would have been a hit feature. There wasn't proper commitment to the feature.

The fn keys you can almost circumvent, but the escape key? Common!

the esc key is still there. i'm still using the m1 macbook pro with the touchbar.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by genedai »

diskzero wrote: post #199
MyFirstSass wrote: post #21

Does anyone know if Stephen Lemay replacing Dye will potentially "save" the increasing mess that is OSX, at least UX wise, or is it more of a meaningless figurehead swap in a big org? Tahoe is tragically bad by almost every UX measure, and following various Apple subreddits i wonder if they just don't care anymore - since the majority of people are shocked by the amateurishness of both bugs and design choices in the…

I worked on Finder/TimeMachine/Spotlight/iOS at Apple from 2000-2007. I worked closely with Bas Ording, Stephen Lemay, Marcel van Os, Imran Chaudry, Don Lindsey and Greg Christie. I have no experience with any of the designers who arrived in the post-Steve era. During my time, Jony Ive didn't figure prominently in the UI design, although echoes of his industrial design appeared in various ways in the graphic design o…

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ramijames »

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

The worst part is the audiocore substack that is glitching. I waited to major subversions to upgrade and still got bit. I hate this.
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