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US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Post by unsupp0rted »

blahedo wrote: post #28

I've been wondering all year about what happens when an executive-branch office issues orders that it is not legally qualified to issue; by and large everybody has just... followed them. This may be another example (I don't know quite enough of the legal specifics in this case, though there are certainly others that are more slam-dunk-y in this respect). What are the enforcement mechanisms here if the states in quest…

What orders is the executive branch legally qualified to issue?

If they ordered sloppy joes in the white house cafeteria a federal judge would stay the order by noon the next day.

Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Post by gardncl »

cyberax wrote: post #423
gardncl wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not correct, and doesn't even pass the sniff test. Solar is deployed at ~$2/watt and you're saying batteries are increasing that cost 2.5x to 10x? So, someone installing a home battery system is paying up to 10x their solar install cost to also have battery backup? No way. Also, battery tech continues to improve rapidly, we're seeing breakthroughs like this rapidly reduce the price: https://spectrum.ieee.org/…

> That is not correct, and doesn't even pass the sniff test. These are numbers from the known far-right organization....err... Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy: https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/publications/studies/cost-o... > Solar is deployed at ~$2/watt and you're saying batteries are increasing that cost 2.5x to 10x? Exactly. And you need closer to 100x for some locations (Germany) for the solar to be reliab…

Those costs with storage are if you want 100% power from solar which is not reality. US alone gets 20% of power from nuclear today, we’re not going around tearing down the base load and adding solar. We’re keeping base load and adding renewables, which include wind.

Also if renewables are so dumb and are so problematic why were they 95% of new power generation installed in the US last year?

Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #477
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #438

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> What nuclear waste? Where is it? Good question! Since you asked: it is largely in cooling pools and piling up in empty lots around nuclear power plants, waiting for safe, secure storage to appear. > Something is either highly radioactive for a short amount of time, or not very radioactive for a long amount of time. This is not true at all, unless you consider "short amount of time" to include decades to centuries t…

> around nuclear power plants Exactly what I said. > This is not true at all Yes it is. I mean, if you’re going to dispute my point without providing any evidence, then all we’ve got is opinions. If we’ve got data, let’s go with the data. If all we’ve got is opinions, let’s go with mine.

> Exactly what I said

Actually, it's exactly what I said. Here's the quote:

>It is largely in cooling pools and piling up in empty lots around nuclear power plants, waiting for safe, secure storage to appear.

See? Exactly.

> Yes it is.

No it isn't.

> I mean, if you’re going to dispute my point without providing any evidence

lol, you never provided us with any in the first place! Why would I waste more time and effort disproving some claim of yours, than you spent trying to prove the original claim in the first place? That'd be falling for gish gallop.

Until you produce sufficient evidence to convincingly prove that your original claim is true, we can safely assume it is not. So, onus is on you: It's up to you to prove your own point, nobody else. If you’ve got data, let’s see the data.

Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Post by PleasureBot »

softwaredoug wrote: post #330

The real takeaway is when a big project can be paused entirely due to one presidents very specific / frivolous whims - we won’t be able to do big projects in the current order. We need a shift in the constitutional order where the whims of one person isnt fused with the bureaucracy

Half of the USA, or at least half of its voting population, now supports the idea that the role of government is simply to be an extension of the personality of the Chief Executive. Essentially, whatever Trump feels is the policy of the government and therefor is the law.

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Post by egberts1 »

tjohns wrote: post #329
dmbche wrote: post #293

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Realistically, isn't it a known presence on radar? It's static - you can't just ignore signals from that area in space?

Yes, and more... You can use different antenna designs for a more directional radar beam. Or tilt the beam upwards to steer it around obstacles. You can also build a moving-target detector by looking at doppler shift to filter out objects that are moving too slowly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_target_indication

Curly blades makes it harder to lower its radar surface areas.

Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Post by 3form »

SamDc73 wrote: post #218

Yes, turbine blades can introduce radar clutter and affect certain military systems; but this has been know since the 1990s and has been engineered around for decades. China, the UK, Germany, and Denmark operate gigawatts of offshore wind in close proximity to military-grade and NATO air-defense radar without much issue...

There could be new developments in the problem. For example, small scale drones using these areas as entry points. Not to say that's that, but I think it's not impossible that something new is being taken under consideration.

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Post by Forgeties79 »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #470
Forgeties79 wrote: post #466

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> The Chrenobyl reactors weren’t even housed in containment buildings, they were housed in what’s best described as a shed. And why was that allowed? Because of quality regulation?

Got any examples of any presently operating civil power reactors that don’t have their reactor cores in some kind of containment structure? Others I guess the answer to your question is: fuckwit communists were running the place at the time.

Chernobyl happened while I was alive. It wasn’t that long ago. The leader of the Soviet Union who presided over the disaster (Gorbachev) died only 3 years ago.

Aside from that, “because communism” is not a serious answer.

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Post by rbanffy »

UltraSane wrote: post #502
array_key_first wrote: post #468

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I don't think this is true at all. It's a heavy capex business with very small marginal returns, that takes planning on the order of decades. AKA, a US company's worst nightmare. Investors don't like that shit, they like half-baked software that code monkeys can pump out.

A fully paid off nuclear reactor is extremely profitable because of little fuel cost.

Operating a commercial reactor and keeping it up to regulations isn’t exactly cheap. It requires people, periodic inspections, maintenance, and lots of paperwork to prove you are not cutting corners.
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