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Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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idk isn't pager operation the textbook example of "trying to avoid civilian deaths" while getting your job done? why is it "genocide"? is becoming hezbollah determined at birth? is hezbollah a race? does average civilian use walkie-talkie? even if hezbollah was a race, after its civilian attack on 2023 (beheading babies, raping and killing even foreigners), I wouldn't even care about what those guys get (also, don't…

First of all, you are conflating Hamas and Hezbollah. Second of all, the stories about beheading of babies and mass rape on October 7, 2023 have been thoroughly debunked. Third: the pager operation caused indiscriminate explosions at places where non-combattant citizens were present. Not very gentlemen-ly (to use your words), and indeed a war crime. Fourth: What they did in Gaza is arguably worse than carpet bombing.

But the hundreds of concert goers who Hamas killed is very true. Remember how they paraded the broken body of that young German woman around like a disgusting hunting trophy?

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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I’ve said this before and cannot be said enough. Palantir is a data platform. I think they optimize for knowledge graphs (ontology). It has several uses. It’s seems to be fashionable to blame Palantir these days. But then wouldn’t you also blame other things - Java and database open source, Python, Linux foundation, etc. for all this. I think people just want to blame without analyzing what else could be blamed to. R…

Palintir is people, specifically people who are tasked with onboarding customers to use the data platform. They get to choose their users in a way that Java and Linux do not. (I hold no ill will against them, I'd rather Israel win than the other guys)

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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idk isn't pager operation the textbook example of "trying to avoid civilian deaths" while getting your job done? why is it "genocide"? is becoming hezbollah determined at birth? is hezbollah a race? does average civilian use walkie-talkie? even if hezbollah was a race, after its civilian attack on 2023 (beheading babies, raping and killing even foreigners), I wouldn't even care about what those guys get (also, don't…

The pager operation is illegal according to international laws. I think you should ask ICJ on way it has designated Isreal response as genocide.

So were the many thousands of rockets Hezbollah fired at Israel civilians between Oct 7 2023 and the pager attack but no one cared about those either.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Interestingly just nine days ago someone here shared a link to the US's Law of War manual for military personnel. It's pretty good for what it is. Since countries base this stuff on the same international treaties they've all signed, it's a guide to Israel's conduct during war (or just about anyone's) as well as the US's. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46147605 https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/31/2003271432/-…

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The northern settlements were largely evacuated and used by the IDF. The party to this conflict that systematically targets civilians is the state of Israel.

One could make the argument that the US and Israel committing genocide makes paramilitary action against them legal, since the US controls the UN security council through their veto power.

Right now Israel is an occupying power that systematically destroys civilian infrastructure and threatens an international force in Lebanon, making it permissible to fight back.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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post #510

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, you are conflating Hamas and Hezbollah. Second of all, the stories about beheading of babies and mass rape on October 7, 2023 have been thoroughly debunked. Third: the pager operation caused indiscriminate explosions at places where non-combattant citizens were present. Not very gentlemen-ly (to use your words), and indeed a war crime. Fourth: What they did in Gaza is arguably worse than carpet bombing.

But the hundreds of concert goers who Hamas killed is very true. Remember how they paraded the broken body of that young German woman around like a disgusting hunting trophy?

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The northern settlements were largely evacuated and used by the IDF. The party to this conflict that systematically targets civilians is the state of Israel. One could make the argument that the US and Israel committing genocide makes paramilitary action against them legal, since the US controls the UN security council through their veto power. Right now Israel is an occupying power that systematically destroys civil…

"The northern settlements were largely evacuated and used by the IDF."

This is a complete and utter lie. Hezbollah's missile attacks throughout 2024 led to the evacuation of over 60,000 Israeli residents from northern Israel.

Try to imagine the US response to Mexico shooting that many missiles at a US city.

"Israel is an occupying power"

Israel isn't occupying Lebanon but Hezbollah is.

" making it permissible to fight back."

This is exactly what Israel did so brilliantly with the pager attack.

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screaming "genocide" like this has become a cliched thought terminating cliche.

Well, if that stops your thinking, maybe ponder the illegality of the israeli occupation of palestinian territory then.

The israelis must withdraw their people from palestinian territories occupied in -67 and ought to pay reparations for both the occupation and destruction of property, as well as allow refugees to either return to their homes or pay reparations to them.

Unless they do this immediately the international community ought to assemble an international military force and invade the region and put an end to the US-Israeli atrocities. Which is unlikely since they're both expected to use nuclear weapons in response to justice.

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The northern settlements were largely evacuated and used by the IDF. The party to this conflict that systematically targets civilians is the state of Israel. One could make the argument that the US and Israel committing genocide makes paramilitary action against them legal, since the US controls the UN security council through their veto power. Right now Israel is an occupying power that systematically destroys civil…

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