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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by rationalist »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #506
Aurornis wrote: post #163

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

Recently I rediscovered that this has been solved by a small notepad that fits in my pocket and a pen. Maybe I should get some VC money for that

I used to use a notepad and pen in my pocket, now I use my phone - neither of which I can safely use while driving, which is when I have most of my rememberings or other thoughts.

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Post by qwertox »

Aurornis wrote: post #163

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

I ordered it because I often want to record short notes when I'm driving or doing something else, without using the phone. Maybe I'll use it once a day, or twice every three days, but when I'd use it, then because there's really a need for that.

And the ability to post-process the audio on my own, to transcribe it and then let an MCP server add the transcription to my notes in Obsidian removes all the hassle of micromanaging notes. Let's see how it works, but I think that this can be useful.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by embedding-shape »

dangus wrote: post #520
embedding-shape wrote: post #518

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to be the person to break it to you, but you're in the wrong subthread and none of what you wrote matters, the context is specifically about the regulation. There is a bunch of other subthreads where people moan about that this doesn't have any actual market.

I’m fully aware that the context is about the regulation. But this thread is like pointing out that the cybertruck doesn’t meet EU regulations. It doesn’t matter because the truck is a sales disaster in its most potent market and will probably be discontinued.

Ok, so the discussion isn't interesting to you because you think another thing will make the second thing irrelevant. But obviously discussing the second thing has value, regardless of your personal opinion, so why don't you just stay out of the topic instead of trying to change it to something else?

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Post by losvedir »

swiftcoder wrote: post #511
pedalpete wrote: post #321

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We regularly get contacted by people in Europe who want to buy our product, but we haven't been providing support due to the cost of certs, and other regulatory needs (medical/wellness device). We want to help people in the EU, but with laws like replaceable batteries, it's going to push us further and further away from being able to do that. Our product is designed to be refurbished, but not user-replaceable. At the…

> Do people replace their phones because the battery isn't good anymore Pretty much exclusively? The last 4-5 iPhone purchases in my family have all been due to dying batteries (plus a couple of off-brand battery replacements by local cellphone techs). Nothing else on iPhones really ever breaks, provided you keep some sort of case on it. The only non-battery failure I've ever had was a corroded lightning port (on a i…

And what did you do with them? Throw them away? I bought and used an iPhone 11 for a year last year, and it came with a perfectly functional, replaced battery.

People on HN have such a blind spot around old, used phones which thrive in secondary marketplaces. You'd think iPhones are filling dumpsters with the rhetoric here but they actually hold their value remarkably well, which means they have a much longer useful life. A replaceable battery is different from a user-replaceable battery. The former is a sustainability concern, the latter is just a feature.

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Post by mannykannot »

littlestymaar wrote: post #490
protocolture wrote: post #370

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> A market doesnt want our products, we wont provide those products to that market. The terms seem at least, largely influenced by the laws euros seem happy with. Regulation has a cost.

e-waste also have a cost. And regulations are here to make businesses internalize this cost instead of letting society as a whole pay it out.

Sometimes the cost is that there is no viable product.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by mannykannot »

wkat4242 wrote: post #395
fao_ wrote: post #367

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And this is why regulation exists, QED lol

Yes, a free market isn't the answer to everything. It will never optimise for sustainability unless this is a conscious consumer choice factor. It's way too important to leave it to that though. Hence regulation.

Fair enough, and I agree that regulation is often needed, but we cannot, in general, expect it to have only the consequences explicitly sought.

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Post by Aurornis »

cxr wrote: post #242
Aurornis wrote: post #163

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

Different people have different lives. I myself can't imagine the type of life where at any given moment during the day I'm in a position to "immediately pull out my phone" when I want to create a record of something. I'm not a Pebble customer, past or present, and I have owned exactly zero smartwatches. Excluding portrayals of futuristic wrist-mounted computers I saw during childhood that seemed cool just because th…

> I guess the only recourse you have about its existence is to not buy it.

I don’t get it. I don’t need to have any “recourse”, I’m just discussing the practicality of the design.

I was explaining that I do empathize with the target market they’re trying to reach: People who want to take notes quickly during the day. Yet even I’m having a hard time seeing this as an upgrade in my life as opposed to an added complication in that workflow.

Maybe if someone had a lot of fleeting thoughts and was also highly forgetful?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by Tempest1981 »

Reading this thread on HN made me sad. Massive negativity/cynicism.

Where have all the hackers gone? Those who enjoy discussing technology, or appreciate something clever. Discussion of CPUs and sensors, or miniaturization and packaging.

Any other good forums where people discuss engineering and technology? Or even design and usability?

(I'm not against sustainability, but long discussions on EU regulations get tiresome. Yes, I collapsed them, leaving almost nothing.)

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Post by Aurornis »

arscan wrote: post #299
Aurornis wrote: post #163

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

I think this could be useful for the type of person that uses uses todo lists to help them tackle lots of small tasks that they intend to do immediately but somehow get distracted mid-action from and never finish (and then forget about altogether). As described in this blog post that front-paged hn some time ago: > When I notice a micro-task like this, my instinct is not to do it, but to put it in the todo list. Then…

> small tasks that they intend to do immediately but somehow get distracted mid-action from and never finish (and then forget about altogether).

That’s the idea, but now it creates a secondary burden of having to act on those notes to translate them into actions.

When it’s time to process your 20 different 3-second thoughts from throughout the day, is the easily distracted person actually going to sit down and work through all 20 of them at the end of the day without also getting distracted?

In my experience, the people who accumulate a lot of micro tasks because they’re too distracted to follow up on them in the moment are the same people who abandon their todo lists after they accumulate 50 items that weren’t important enough to prioritize at the time.

If someone is taking 20 notes a day, that’s over 100 notes in a week. I’m having a hard time squaring the processing of these notes with the idea that it’s for someone who is easily distracted mid task.

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