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Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

TheJoeMan wrote: post #64

They also are actively decreasing the value by sunsetting Publisher in October 2026 [0]. Hilariously, the suggested replacement is PowerPoint, despite it being unable to natively open .pub files. The solution for that? Run a powershell script to convert all your publisher files to (uneditable) PDF. There are many memes about inserting photos into Word, and the content flying around and breaking. My pet theory is that…

> My pet theory is that the younger generation never realized Publisher existed or was included in M365

For a very long time Publisher was marketed to home users who want to do some simple DTP work, and not to businesses. This is a very different audience than businesses.

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Post by tonyhart7 »

graemep wrote: post #463
tonyhart7 wrote: post #431

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"Full disclosure, I haven't used microsoft office in a few decades." and thats the problem, the fair comparison would be like You replace AWS with hetzner vps

So its a good idea :)

Yeah the problem is hetzner actually good, office alternative is all sucks

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Post by qubex »

TheJoeMan wrote: post #64

They also are actively decreasing the value by sunsetting Publisher in October 2026 [0]. Hilariously, the suggested replacement is PowerPoint, despite it being unable to natively open .pub files. The solution for that? Run a powershell script to convert all your publisher files to (uneditable) PDF. There are many memes about inserting photos into Word, and the content flying around and breaking. My pet theory is that…

I last used Publisher way back in the late nineties to lay out the school newsletter, later I graduated to PageMaker because I found Publisher easy to use but ultimately quite limiting. Fun memories, I hadn’t even realised Publisher still existed, and I’m the most elder of elder millennials.

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Post by qubex »

I’m the insufferable Apple fanboy that chimes in to mention Pages, Numbers, and Keynote. I have a personal subscription to Office 365 for interoperability but I’ve been annoyed by their inescapable AI price hike and now this. I might as well just cancel my subscription. Excel for Apple doesn’t even have PowerQuery and PowerPivot, so it’s already a diminished experience.

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Post by jfindper »

jimnotgym wrote: post #268
jfindper wrote: post #87

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Percentages are fun because they can make something with a small absolute change look like a giant change. No business is really going to care about $1.00/user, especially when it costs hundreds of dollars per user (or thousands) to migrate entirely away from the Microsoft ecosystem.

And where could you migrate to?

No idea? I was just making a point about $1.00 being nothing despite "16% increase" looking big.

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Post by 1718627440 »

chii wrote: post #477
1718627440 wrote: post #475

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You do you. Last time I needed it, setting up libpam-mysql was fairly quick.

And setting up things like rsync to replace dropbox is also "fairly quick"! The point isn't that but the fact that like a normal user, a normal business don't want to have to tinker with low level components to get the functionality they want. They desire to pay and get a working piece of infrastructure with low hassle (tho i get saying active directory being low hassle is weird).

But a normal user isn't going to setup AD either. This will be done by sysadmins anyway, so stuff like being able to put the configuration into version control is actually useful for them. The "normal business" has lots of employee databases anyways and integration is actually a feature instead of needing to sync it with bespoke Microsoft internals.

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Post by chaostheory »

crazygringo wrote: post #504
chaostheory wrote: post #365

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Zoho Office isn’t bad. It looks like a lot of the project planning SAAS are trying to take the crown too. It’s just strange that Google seemingly gave up.

How did Google give up? Google Workspace is extremely popular with new features coming out constantly, used by tons of corporations. Is it just not on your radar or something?

They don’t have customer support. Otherwise, they would make much larger inroads. Most businesses don’t want to take the risk migrating to paid Google services for that reason.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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Post by 6510 »

kakacik wrote: post #423
6510 wrote: post #319

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Don't underestimate the rage from citizens who receive important documents and sheets in formats they can't open. Or you can open them but with a warning that some functionality might be lost. (reads like: you might go to prison)

Don't over-estimate that neither. Things can be done in such ways that there is nothing visibly incompatible (ie scripting behind some forms), you can always just print and fill the document if needed, and anyway most documents are static pdfs with optional plus for filling some fields in computer.

For us it isn't a very big deal. We will dig out the data points with our bare hands if we have to. (in ways that would make a data analyst scream) For normal users the experience is more like ransomware.

Re: Microsoft increases Office 365 and Microsoft 365 license prices

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Post by lomase »

1718627440 wrote: post #527
chii wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And setting up things like rsync to replace dropbox is also "fairly quick"! The point isn't that but the fact that like a normal user, a normal business don't want to have to tinker with low level components to get the functionality they want. They desire to pay and get a working piece of infrastructure with low hassle (tho i get saying active directory being low hassle is weird).

But a normal user isn't going to setup AD either. This will be done by sysadmins anyway, so stuff like being able to put the configuration into version control is actually useful for them. The "normal business" has lots of employee databases anyways and integration is actually a feature instead of needing to sync it with bespoke Microsoft internals.

So you can hook up all those internal employee databases to your new created libpam-mysql and hook it up all to slack or just use what Microsoft sells you.
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