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Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by kalaksi »

absoluteunit1 wrote: post #491
lbrito wrote: post #416

The agentic spam is exhausting. I just wanted to code. Too early in my career to not give a shit and retire, but too late be excited about these things and eager to learn. What a time...

Same here - completely relate. One thing I’ve noticed though that actually coding (without the use of AI; maybe a bit of tab auto-complete) is that I’m actually way faster when working in my domain than I am when using AI tools. Everytime I use AI tools in my domain-expertise area, I find it ends up slowing me down. Introducing subtle bugs, me having to provide insane amount of context and details (at which point it…

When I'm doing the coding myself, I'm at least making steady progress and the process is predictable. With LLMs, it's a crapshoot. I have to get the AI to understand what I want and may have try again multiple times, many times never succeeding, and end up writing a lot of text anyway. And in between, I'll have to read a lot of code that probably ends up being thrown away or heavily modified. This probably depends a lot on what kind of project one is working on, though.

But it's like you said, I like using LLMs for completing smaller parts or asking specific kind of help or having conversations about solutions, but for anything larger, it just feels like banging my head to a wall.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by chuckadams »

aniviacat wrote: post #398
nateb2022 wrote: post #43

I went ahead and downloaded it, it looks to be a VSCode fork very similar to Cursor, with support for the following models: - Gemini 3 Pro (High) - Gemini 3 Pro (Low) - Claude Sonnet 4.5 - Claude Sonnet 4.5 (Thinking) - GPT-OSS 120B (Medium)

I wonder why these forks don't build off Eclipse Theia. Is it because of the Eclipse license?

Just the Eclipse legacy and development approach perhaps. Eclipse is 24 years old and its codebase stems from VisualAge before that, so I imagine it's ... idiosyncratic. Probably the most successful thing built on OSGi, though I dont imagine Theia brought any of that along.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by skydhash »

absoluteunit1 wrote: post #491
lbrito wrote: post #416

The agentic spam is exhausting. I just wanted to code. Too early in my career to not give a shit and retire, but too late be excited about these things and eager to learn. What a time...

Same here - completely relate. One thing I’ve noticed though that actually coding (without the use of AI; maybe a bit of tab auto-complete) is that I’m actually way faster when working in my domain than I am when using AI tools. Everytime I use AI tools in my domain-expertise area, I find it ends up slowing me down. Introducing subtle bugs, me having to provide insane amount of context and details (at which point it…

One of the core principles of my workflow (inspired by REPL development and some unix tools) is to start with a single file (for a function or the whole project). The I refactor the code to have a better organization and to improve reliability, especially as I'm handling more scenarios (and failure modes).

LLMs are not useful in this workflow, because they are too verbose. Their answers are generic and handle scenarios you don't even support yet. What's useful is good documentation (as in truthful) and the code if it's open.

This approach has worked really well in my career. It gives me KISS and YAGNI for free. And every line of code is purposeful and have a reason to be there.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by chermi »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

Lol the second I saw the antigravity release I thought "there's no way I'm using that, they will kill it within a year". Looks like they're trying to kill it at birth.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by hs86 »

Etheryte wrote: post #214
pdntspa wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so hard for these to be VSCode extensions and not forks?

Microsoft has very specific constraints on what extensions can and can't do, it's not a free for all. They're actively defending their mote by allowing Copilot to do things in a way that extensions couldn't. That's why all the serious contenders make a fork, it's simply not possible to have the same integration otherwise.

A bit tangential, but I asked the new Gemini model about this, and it immediately traced back this quote to your username: https://gemini.google.com/share/144b46094d6e

Creepy stuff :)

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by cloverich »

supportengineer wrote: post #456
uatec wrote: post #378

"Congratulations, you have been elevated to manager to agents." That's not exactly really where I hoped my career would lead. It's like managing junior developers, but without having nice people to work with.

I'm at one of those companies where we're forced to be in the office. NO ONE TALKS TO EACH OTHER unless absolutely necessary for work. We get on Zooms to talk. Even with the person 1 cubicle over.

> We get on Zooms to talk. Even with the person 1 cubicle over.

But why? Required? Culture? Maybe it's the company?

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by ffsm8 »

hatsix wrote: post #508
dabockster wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know what IntelliJ is. It started as a modernized Eclipse competitor (the Java IDE) but they've built a bunch of other IDEs based on it. Idk if it still runs on Java or not, but it had potential last I used it about a decade ago. But running GUI apps on the JVM isn't the best for 1000 reasons, so I hope they've moved off it.

Android Studio is built on the IntelliJ stack. Jetbrains just launched a dedicated Claude button (the button just opens up claude in the IDE, but there are some pretty neat IDE integrations that it supports, like being able to see the text selection, and using the IDE's diff tool). I wonder if that's why Google decided to go VS code?

Uh, isn't that the regular Claude code extension that's been available for ages at this point? Not jetbrains but anthropics own development?

As a person paying for the jetbrains ultimate package (all ides), I think going with vscode is a very solid decision.

The jetbrains ides still have various features which I always miss whenever I need to use another IDE (like way better "import" suggestions as an easy to understand example)... But unless you're writing in specific languages like Java, vscode is way quicker and works just fine - and that applies even more to agentic development, where you're using these features less and less...

Re: Google Antigravity

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Post by eclipxe »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #439

I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

What looked like out of credits for me was really just server overload. Check the error and try again
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