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Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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10 years is nothing.

Are you some kind of timeless being? it's a meaningful fraction of a human life

In the context of technology, not the context of one life.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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I politely disagree - it is exactly an industry researcher's purpose to do the risky things that may not work, simply because the rest of the corporation cannot take such risks but must walk on more well-trodden paths. Corporate R&D teams are there to absorb risk, innovate, disrupt, create new fields, not for doing small incremental improvements. "If we know it works, it's not research." (Albert Einstein) I also agre…

> I also agree with LeCun that LLMs in their current form - are a dead end. Well then you and he are clearly dead wrong.

How do you know that for sure? How can you be absolutely certain that LLMs are what will lead to AGI?

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Isn't that why Siri is worse today than it was thirteen years ago?

And apparently that doesn't stop people from buying their products

It doesn't.

Apple makes the best hardware, period.

It makes sense that people are willing to overlook subpar software for top notch hardware.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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You must not watch broadcast television (e.g American Football). Anthropic is doing a huge ad blitz, trying to get end customers to use their chatbot.

Anthropic, frankly, needs to in ways the other big names don't. It gets lost on people in techcentric fields because Claude's at the forefront of things we care about, but Anthropic is basically unknown among the wider populace. Last I'd looked a few months ago, Anthropic's brand awareness was in the middle single digits; OpenAI/ChatGPT was somewhere around 80% for comparison. MS/Copilot and Gemini were somewhere bet…

Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products.

However, I speak with a small subset of our most experienced engineers and they all love Claude Sonnet 4.5. Who knows if this lead will last.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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I won't be surprised if Musk hires him. But I hear LeCun hates the guts of Musk.

Musk doesn't appear interested in AI research - he's basically doing the same as Meta and just pursuing me-too SOTA LLMs and image generation at X.ai.

Musk only cares about AI as far as it can be used to replace all sources of information with versions that will say whatever he wants and spout his worldview of the day.

Musk cares about AI research as much as he cared about Path of Exile

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Most of the folks on this topic are focused on Meta and Yann’s departure. But, I’m seeing something different. This is the weirdest technology market that I’ve seen. Researchers are getting rewarded with VC money to try what remains a science experiment. That used to be a bad word and now that gets rewarded with billions of dollars in valuation.

Given the infinite amount of VC money and greed this is not a big surprise.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Ah that's interesting, mine is omnipresent and occasionally bad enough I have to take days off work as I can't read my own code; it's like there's a baseline of it that occasionally flares up at random. Were you born with visual snow or did you acquire it later in life? I developed it as a teenager, and it was worsened significantly after a fever when I was a fresher. Also do you get comorbid headaches with yours out…

I developed it later in life. The tinnitus came earlier (and isn't as a result of excessive sound exposure as far as I know), but in my (unscientific) opinion they are different manifestations (symptoms) of the same underlying issue – a missing or faulty noise filter on sensory inputs to the brain. Thankfully I don't get comorbid headaches – in fact I seldom get headaches at all. And even on the odd occasion that I d…

scoot, you may find the current mini-series by the podcast Unexplainable to be interesting. It's on sound, and one episode is about tinnitus and research into it.

https://www.vox.com/podcasts/467048/unexplainable-hearing-au...

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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A lot of them left in the first days on the job. I guess they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out. No one wants to work on AI slop and mental abuse of children on social media.

Stated without a shred of evidence and getting no pushback. Classic for a nonsense claim about big tech company HN doesn't like, lol.

https://www.wired.com/story/researchers-leave-meta-superinte...

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Anthropic, frankly, needs to in ways the other big names don't. It gets lost on people in techcentric fields because Claude's at the forefront of things we care about, but Anthropic is basically unknown among the wider populace. Last I'd looked a few months ago, Anthropic's brand awareness was in the middle single digits; OpenAI/ChatGPT was somewhere around 80% for comparison. MS/Copilot and Gemini were somewhere bet…

Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products. However, I speak with a small subset of our most experienced engineers and they all love Claude Sonnet 4.5. Who knows if this lead will last.

>Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products.

I don't see what the basis for this is that wouldn't be equally true for OpenAI.

Anthropic's edge is that they very arguably have some of the best technology available right now, despite operating at a fraction of the scale of their direct competitors. They have to start building mind and marketshare if they're going to hold that position, though, which is the point of advertising.

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