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Wow, people are really clueless about how nuclear power plants really work. It's really not that dangerous to fall into the water.
A lot of us grew up in the time of 3 Mile Island and Chernobyl. Combined with a lot of media about radioactivity's dangers ( https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/06/nyregion/babies-teeth-and... ). I think that has strongly affected people's perception of risk. I used to work at UC Berkeley, and one of the buildings on campus previously held a research nuclear reactor ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Research_React…
A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool
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Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool
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A lot of us grew up in the time of 3 Mile Island and Chernobyl. Combined with a lot of media about radioactivity's dangers ( https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/06/nyregion/babies-teeth-and... ). I think that has strongly affected people's perception of risk. I used to work at UC Berkeley, and one of the buildings on campus previously held a research nuclear reactor ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Research_React…
I think for the general population we also have The Simpsons to blame. Ask anyone on the street what "nuclear waste" actually is and I'd wager at least half would say "a barrel with glowing green goo leaking out of it."
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dunno if the life vest bit comment of yours was sarcastic, but it is a funny remark for sure :-) it sounds like "guy felt down in a volcano, but fortunately, he had a life vest"
XKCD has a good video about this. The top of the water is remarkably safe, and a life vest would keep you up there! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRUL7vKdU8
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I would take the advice of a surgeons son, who is also somewhat active in the field, that something sounds fishy about a operation, to further look into it. That is very different from letting him perform the surgery. There is incentive to play down accidents. No idea what happened here, I actually rather think it recived publicity because falling into a nuclear reactor pool sounds way more dramatic than it is, but .…
There is also incentive for people to inflate their sense of importance by weighing in on topics they're not qualified on, especially if it's motivated by a sense of familial pride. You can see elsewhere on this thread that arthurcolle self-admits a lack of familiarity with basic interpretation of CPM. Misinformation, whether ill-intentioned or not, does real and tangible harm to our society. Misinformation about the…
I maybe did not read all of it, but which missinformation is he spreading exactly?
(Follow up, why are you in a position to judge that? )
As for missinformation in general, I happened to be born after chernobyl. Where the authorities in eastern germany said, all is fine. But since the people got western television, where they said no, not fine, children may not go outside while the radioactive raincloud is still there, my immediate experience is rather people downplaying the dangers.
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His comment is gray because it’s still pearl clutching over facts the commenter doesn’t even understand. The worker was not sent for radiation because 300/min is background radiation levels you get from everyday things.
I love when people confidently state what is in someone else's head in service of explaining why that someone else is "wrong". Talk about telling on yourself. (tl;dr: we do know this, but thanks!)
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TFA says: “The individual was decontaminated by radiation protection personnel but had 300 counts per minute detected in their hair. At 1632 EDT they were sent off site to seek medical attention.” Apparently they do have concerns.
> Apparently they do have concerns. Well yeah. If someone falls in water at work, you get them checked out at the hospital. The paltry amount of radiation is kind of the least of your worries if there's even the smallest risk you got some water in your lungs. People can drown on dry land from about a tablespoon of water getting into their lungs.
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Wow, people are really clueless about how nuclear power plants really work. It's really not that dangerous to fall into the water.
Can you please make your substantive points without putting others down? https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
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That makes zero sense. Radiation is not a component of water; it is literally photons[0]. In the nanosecond after you fill the glass, all the radiation in it has left the volume. I'd drink it. It's just extremely pure water, with a nuclear flashlight at the bottom of the pool - which no one could see, even if they had gamma-ray glasses on[1], because the water attenuates it so much. [0] Or ions of hydrogen or helium,…
Radiation isn’t contained in the water as photons, but the coolant itself becomes radioactive through neutron activation. Even with intact fuel rods, oxygen in the water turns into N-16 with a half-life of about seven seconds, and trace metals like nickel and cobalt form isotopes such as Co-58 and Co-60. These emit strong gamma radiation while the reactor operates. The primary coolant is not simply pure water; it con…
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Reactor h2o itself does not carry radiation, but any extra molecules in tend to do it, thats the reason why the water is as clean you can get, over-distilled. This by itself means that it is not potable (btw for disposal to environment it gets re-salinated), so they told the story of professor drinking it must be an urban myth. It is bad even for skin expose (swimming in it), but hopefully that worker got just a few…
> This by itself means that it is not potable Do you mean because it's distilled? Distilled water is perfectly safe to drink.
And "resalinated" is nonsense. Water isn't safe because it contains salts.
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I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. See https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/ “But just to be sure, I got in touch with a friend of mine who works at a research reactor, and asked him what he thought would happen to you if you tried to swim in their radiation containment pool. “In our reactor?” He thought about it for a moment. “You’d die pretty quickly, before reaching the water, from gunshot wounds.”
...only in the US.
The site contains the most dangerous poison on Earth, that is also a key component in the most feared weapon on Earth. Do you suppose in the UK they just put up signs saying "Sir or madam, kindly do not steal our plutonium"?