French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

Post by pjc50 » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

aerostable_slug wrote: post #392

walkabout wrote: post #310

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I have relatives who’ve been concerned enough about the “[democratic candidate] will take your guns!” thing that they’ve made and displayed signs about it. For multiple election cycles. That these same candidates, when elected, haven’t even attempted such a thing, even when they have an aligned Congress, doesn’t seem to register at all. They hear their lying talking heads say it again the next time, and believe it wh…

They would do it if they had the political capital, and further they will tell you as much. Why would I not believe candidates who have spent their political life advocating the banning of the most popular rifle in America? When someone shows you what they are, believe them. If Democrats want people to stop reacting that way, they need to commit to leaving law-abiding gun owners alone, not say "well it'll be fine, be…

Post by pjc50 » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 2:30 PM UTC

ctrlp wrote: post #402

greatgib wrote: post #146

Something really scary in France right now is that you can see really clearly how most mainstream media are used for propaganda. Since a few days, there is an abundance of cover and articles in most major newspaper here with propaganda and repeated lies supporting him. It's hard to imagine but non stop. You have everyday interviews of his family saying that it is an injustice, that he did nothing, that the judgement…

This is hopelessly naive. Heads of state should not be prosecuted in democracies. It sets a bad precedent and there is no easy way to apply the rule of law to the head of state. There are too many examples in history of abusive lawfare practices. Better not to nitpick about "crimes" in such cases and let the man disappear from the stage. Aggressive prosecutions only increase the likelihood he'll try to mount a politi…

Post by kelipso » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 3:02 PM UTC

nailer wrote: post #519

aj_hackman wrote: post #462

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I made a deliberate effort to neutralize my statement as much as possible. We could argue on this issue, but what we can't disagree on is the fact that there's an issue (which is all that's relevant to the point I was trying to make).

Sure but the public pressure “against the IDF” was manufactured. That’s an important point and relevant to the current discussion.

Post by insane_dreamer » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 4:26 PM UTC

Post by rightbyte » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

Agingcoder wrote: post #494

holoduke wrote: post #438

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As a result the country entered dark ages with suffering unseen before. Of course Gaddafi was betrayed by the French. Just like France is betraying all of their former colonies.

Except that Libya never was a French colony I think.