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Me too, but these people probably aren't having their cars pilfered in the middle of the night.
My solution to that is to just not keep anything valuable in the car and leave it unlocked. After getting my car window smashed in twice for the thieves to not find anything other than trash I decided this was a better system and haven't had a problem since. For all I know people have rummaged around my car but I don't have to deal with damages anymore. My ideal anti-theft device would be a mode where the car is unlo…
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Here in the Netherlands, the government gave them away for free They're also illegal because you're not allowed to film public spaces without a good reason (it's up to the judge and case law to decide, e.g. if there has been arson in the area recently then it's reasonable to monitor your car that's parked at the kerb, for example). Nobody has yet gotten in trouble to my knowledge Gotta love hypocrisy
That the government gave them out has me wondering, do they make any kind of distinction between “government does it” versus “you doing it,” i.e. is the government claiming to be monitoring and not you? In America we have this concept that a police must have a real reason to pull over your car. Except they can just setup an arbitrary checkpoint and pull every driver over and this is magically different and acceptable…
As for the actual question (finally replying to your first paragraph now): sorta. GDPR has exceptions for law enforcement. Pretty broad ones for actual enforcement, iirc much less so for e.g. a statistics bureau or random other government services. If the municipality wants to put up a camera in the busiest places, I think they can use the same argumentation as a private person about their need being greater than people's privacy there, and I'd imagine a judge or privacy agency are more likely to accept it because it's less likely to be abused (the people monitoring the cameras are bound by rules that the organisation makes, and not personally involved) and that changes the up-/downsides analysis. You, the govt, and businesses always need to hang a sign, also on private property (to avoid someone spies on housemates or guests), afaik a judge needs to stamp when a camera needs to be placed secretly somewhere for a defined duration and purpose
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Do you believe burglars have more rights in your home and to your things than you do? Then why do you apply that logic to others that then must suffer your abusive imposition of abuse? How about you just abuse yourself if you want to abuse. Why does in your mind a "brown person" that is a foreign national who broke the law in and of America by entering and/or remaining in the USA, have more rights to have a job, make…
> Do you believe burglars have more rights in your home and to your things than you do? Do you believe that you aren't presenting a ridiculous false dichotomy?
It’s a perfectly vapid question that you avoided and deflected because you know the truth and just cannot face reality. You don’t want an invasion of others and destruction of them or their things they built, right? Well, I’m just not an evil narcissist that only wants that for things and people that benefit me, I want freedom and justice for all, while you will hypocritically sit by and accept and support evil for and by others out of an evil heart.
I don’t have a personal interest in Gaza or any of the people in that whole wretched region, but that does not keep me from understanding that the Gazas also deserved to not be slaughtered and genocided, I simply have principles where you lack them and therefore cannot apply them to people you hate for whatever reason that may be.
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> In 2023, the FTC ordered the company to pay $5.8 million over claims that employees and contractors had unrestricted access to customers’ videos for years. It’s right in the article
Firstly, I doubt that this behavior was not against policy, meaning that employees were not able to do so, but did so anyways. Secondly, the article didn't include they were ordered to create a "comprehensive privacy and data security program" which would lockdown such access further.
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God forbids I engage in bad faith arguments with trolls who put words in my mouth
Exactly what words did I put in your mouth? This is your statement: "just to make this explicit, protecting civilians has never been the purpose of modern police forces. they were developed to put down rebellions/catch slaves/protect rich people's property" That statement is incorrect, no matter what your definition of "modern police force" is. That's it. It's not complicated, despite your attempts to deflect from th…
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Exactly what words did I put in your mouth? This is your statement: "just to make this explicit, protecting civilians has never been the purpose of modern police forces. they were developed to put down rebellions/catch slaves/protect rich people's property" That statement is incorrect, no matter what your definition of "modern police force" is. That's it. It's not complicated, despite your attempts to deflect from th…
it's so incorrect that you knew exactly what I was talking about and agreed with me before you accused me of spreading misinformation :)
Thanks for confirming you knew exactly what you were doing as well. As I said at the start of this, I don't understand what you get out of intentionally making inaccurate statements, but I don't expect you to explain that.
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it's so incorrect that you knew exactly what I was talking about and agreed with me before you accused me of spreading misinformation :)
Yes, I knew exactly how you were stretching the truth to suit your viewpoints. Thanks for confirming you knew exactly what you were doing as well. As I said at the start of this, I don't understand what you get out of intentionally making inaccurate statements, but I don't expect you to explain that.
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Yes, I knew exactly how you were stretching the truth to suit your viewpoints. Thanks for confirming you knew exactly what you were doing as well. As I said at the start of this, I don't understand what you get out of intentionally making inaccurate statements, but I don't expect you to explain that.
thank you for confirming that you agree with the substance of my argument but have some weird ideological axe to grind with the conclusion! i also appreciate you wasting my time, failing to provide any other viewpoint or counterargument, and repeatedly engaging in ad hominem instead of the substance of my argument!
You just made an inaccurate statement that supports your implied argument, because reality does not.
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#530This is the logical conclusion to the state of irrational fear that Americans perpetually live in, that causes them to feel they need 24/7 surveillance of their homes, no matter the consequences.