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Re: Helium Browser

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I just can't go back to horizontal tabs anymore.

vertical tabs never really worked for me. What would you say are the biggest benefits for you?

Your typical screen today is wider than most content on the web needs it to be, so most web pages render as tall columns with ample margins. Vertical tabs use up that space efficiently to show a large number of tabs in a way that makes it much easier to see all your tabs at a glance without losing track because the titles are shortened into nothing.

Re: Helium Browser

#522
post #464

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> IE only stagnated because they kind of wipedout the competition Yeah, people forget that IE was a great browser. It was easily the most performant, I think driven by the Outlook web (I believe the first web app to make use of XMLHttpRequest) team demanding IE team make it so. The issue, like you said, is they won and then stopped updating.

Maybe for a short period. Honestly Firefox(phoenix) was my browser of choice. Internet explorer became the dominant browser for one reason only: it came by default.

> Internet explorer became the dominant browser for one reason only: it came by default.

Default helped, but IE was the far superior browser for a long time. People chose to use it.

I was also a FF user and it came out a few years later than IE6. When FF came out IE6 was still the superior browser, though it was eventually overtaken by both FF and Chrome.

Re: Helium Browser

#523

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I agree with you here. I want a viable non-Chromium browser. But even if that existed, I also think a practical Chromium browser is important to have access to. I'm a developer and I use the web, so sometimes I just need Chromium. I think that will continue to be necessary for at least 10 years. And I think the landscape of Chromium browsers is very bad. As a minimum, I want adblocking, low- or no-telemetry, timely s…

I like Arc browser by The Browser Company. As far as I understand it, it's made by a bunch of jaded ex-google employees, so the Google stuff is also stripped-out. The features are next level, and I feel it's a very forward-thinking browser. Maybe it will work for you

Arc was famously not built by ex-Chrome people but rather a bunch of opinionated UX folks. It amounted to what I can best describe as a glorified "skin" for Chromium and nothing innovative under the hood.

They realized they couldn't make any money with that, so they abandoned it and started Dia which was "AI". Again, they had no capability nor plan to make any solid product, was just sold to Atlassian

Actually, they really knew how to hype up their product. And their marketing videos were top notch. Innovation I suppose.

Re: Helium Browser

#524
If any devs are reading: please add compact tabs like safari and an extension that summarizes pages/video transcripts and enables LLM chat with that context.

Re: Helium Browser

#525

You have my attention! But in this day and age, I need to understand more about intentions, and what sustains projects like this. For the moment I've settled on Safari simply because Apple makes its billions elsewhere, even if I am increasingly disappointed with how they are playing along with politics right now.

Right now? All major corporations play along with whatever the current political winds are. Your own personal biases don't matter in their decision making.

Sure. But I am allowed to compare now to yesteryear, and on my own scale the differences are humungous.

Re: Helium Browser

#526
post #86

You have my attention! But in this day and age, I need to understand more about intentions, and what sustains projects like this. For the moment I've settled on Safari simply because Apple makes its billions elsewhere, even if I am increasingly disappointed with how they are playing along with politics right now.

What makes you think that Apple respects your privacy any more than Google and Microsoft? The marketing brochure?

Can gauge it for myself. You do you.

I certainly will not be equating Apple to Google or Microsoft.

For now.

Re: Helium Browser

#527
post #90

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Well it is just one those element naming chrome fork. Kinda like: https://iridiumbrowser.de/ But that one looks have not being updated in a while. But what is the point forking Chrome browser now days since manifest 3? I switched back to firefox/librawolf for now.

Try zen browser its my favorite firefox fork with only a few extensions

I tried using Zen as I moved away from Arc, it really tries to be Arc but had a ton of issues at the time(6 months ago). Ranging from performance, different parts of UI crashing or behaving weirdly, to typos in English translations all over Settings. I settled on Brave for now because I won't give up uBlock Origin but I also didn't enjoy using Firefox long term for some reason. I honestly loved Arc, but I won't use product they won't work on anymore.

Re: Helium Browser

#528
post #482

I tried it a few days ago, a privacy-focused Chrome that doesn't break browsing experience resonates with me. The team seems to care about quality and the browser felt good overall. A few things that made me go back to Brave: - No vertical tabs - Sync with mobile - I haven't found how to show bookmarks bar only on blank page - Little customization for new tab page (might be fixable using extensions) I'll definitely f…

Regarding the bookmarks bar, Settings / Appearance / Show Bookmarks Bar. If the setting is off, the bar only appears on new tabs. I found that by accident.

thank you! Indeed, it is shown on a new tab in such case!

Re: Helium Browser

#529

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I think they meant tens of millions of people.

Tens of millions of dollars, lines of code and probably people. Tens of millions all around

Tens of millions bytes of bandwidth, tens of millions words of RAM (let's be generous and make em 64-bit), tens of millions clock cycles...

Re: Helium Browser

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post #135

> Helium is based on Chromium > Best privacy by default Sorry, pass... Even with un-googled Chromium I do not think these statements are self-consistent. We need browsers that do not allow Google to control the ecosystem. We need legitimate competition. So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Safari (WebKit), and Ladybird? Personally I go with Firefox on most devices and Orion (WebKit) on my iPhone and iPad. > Heli…

Security isn't just about your data. It's about the security of an open web. Having one rendering engine that controls everything is not secure.

While I agree that monopolies suck, I _absolutely hate_ having to waste my time adjusting styles and writing workaround code just to make everything look and work consistently in a multitude of browsers. This is one of the reasons — among a hundred others — that I grew to somewhat hate front-end, doubly so with the rise of mobile devices. And the more rendering engines we have, the more developers will have to fight frustrating battles with inconsistencies and quirks.
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