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Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by frontfor »

camillomiller wrote: post #439
supernova87a wrote: post #56

By the way, a pet peeve of mine right now is that reporters covering court cases (and we have so many of public interest lately) never seem to simply paste the link to the online PDF decision/ruling for us all to read, right in the story. (and another user here kindly did that for us below: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.223... ) It seems such a simple step (they must have been using the rul…

As a reporter, I can tell you that your comment stems from a common fallacy: y’all think you know better than reporters what our jobs are and what the dynamics of our publishing platform entail. For some reason, everyone feels like they would know how to be a journalist better than the actual professionals. That said, reporters have most probably nothing to do with what you’re decrying. Linking policies are not the r…

It doesn’t matter. From the general population point of view, whoever writes the article is the “reporter”, and “they” don’t provide the links. You can argue otherwise and it won’t change the optics.

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by lnenad »

nwienert wrote: post #473
ehsankia wrote: post #383

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1. It might not be the best across all metrics today, but it definitely was a few years ago. 2. While it's true that other browsers like Firefox have been catching up to Chrome in speed, it's still true that Chrome help lead the way and if not for it, the web would've likely been far slower today. 3. There has been an explosion in other browsers in the past few years, but admittedly they're all chromium-based, so eve…

Safari has been better for going on 5 years now, funny thing is it was worse for long enough that it seems everyone, even to this day, refuses to believe it. Faster in basically every dimension. Supporting way more than FF in terms of specs. Way more efficient on battery. Better feeling scroll, better UI.

Any source for that?

https://www.browserating.com/ doesn't put it in top5 on any non-ios platform?

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by robryan »

wiredpancake wrote: post #156
jonas21 wrote: post #46

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Do you not see ChatGPT and Claude as viable alternatives to search? They've certainly replaced a fair chunk of my queries.

You are losing braincells relying almost entirely on ChatGPT.

Sure you could end up with occasional misinformation, but the speed at which you can get information more than makes up for it. Niche topics that would otherwise take hours or days to pull together and summar ise obscure sources takes minutes with LLMs.

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Post by shmeeed »

r0m4n0 wrote: post #438
BrenBarn wrote: post #390

> Plaintiffs overreached in seeking forced divestiture of these key assets, which Google did not use to effect any illegal restraints. This is the problem. It doesn't matter if they used those specific assets to perpetrate these specific acts. The overall market power derived from those assets (and many others) taints everything they do. There is no way to effectively curtail monopoly power by selectively limiting th…

Sounds nice but many companies cannot exist in tiny pieces, Google included. So if you force that it will cease to exist. Which I believe to be a net negative to the US, and world, some may disagree though Disclosure: Google employee, words are my own

Google Search, Chrome, Android each are market leaders in their domain. You seriously consider that "tiny pieces"?

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Post by nolist_policy »

solardev wrote: post #126
thayne wrote: post #97

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Who would this better managed org be? And how would they get the necessary funding?

Personally I'd vote for Apache, or a new FOSS group. They don't need all the funding that Mozilla currently gets (most of which isn't spent on Firefox anyway). I'd rather see that effort than something like Ladybird, personally.

Seriously, Apache? Go install Apache OpenOffice and then tell me again how Apache is a better stewardship.

I would like to see the OpenOffice equivalent of a web browser just for the fun of it.

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Post by gnz11 »

molf wrote: post #517
gnz11 wrote: post #514

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That’s not how it works at large news orgs. Journalists will enter their articles in a CMS. From there it will get put into a workflow and seen by one or several editors who will edit things for clarity, grammar, style, etc. Links will get added at some point by an editor or automated system. There is no cabal of journalists scheming to keep links out of articles because “culture”.

If there were a culture of always including the original source, or journalists massively advocating to include the original source, then surely the CMS would cater to it. I think it's safe to draw the conclusion that most journalists don't care about it.

There’s a lot of rightly deserved criticism of the media but the OP describing journalists as conspiring to keep links out in the fear of being fact checked by readers is simply false and indicative of not having any experience at a large news organization.

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Post by lxgr »

supernova87a wrote: post #56

By the way, a pet peeve of mine right now is that reporters covering court cases (and we have so many of public interest lately) never seem to simply paste the link to the online PDF decision/ruling for us all to read, right in the story. (and another user here kindly did that for us below: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.223... ) It seems such a simple step (they must have been using the rul…

I feel like way too many journalists or editors still see hyperlinks as a way of "sending traffic to competitors", and as such to be avoided at all cost.

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Post by deruta »

shmeeed wrote: post #520
OvbiousError wrote: post #448

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The regularly flood youtube with advertisments for chrome, I've yet to see my first youtube ad for firefox.

That's an interesting observation. If they don't even use it for advertising, what _IS_ Mozilla doing with all those Google millions? JK, we all know what they're doing with them...

I'm honestly out of the loop, what are they doing?
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