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Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by ben_w » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:41 PM UTC

newswasboring wrote: post #208

shermantanktop wrote: post #193

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It surprises me that the monied elite seem to have so little awareness of what happens when they keep winning.

Please give me an example of what happens. Edit: before someone throws very strong platitudes at me again, I would like to see real-world examples. Because at least in my lifetime there have been zero consequences for people in power. Edit 2: I've been banned from replying to this thread (lol, talk about power of the state). I guess I didn't define my acceptance criteria properly. But I thought it would be clear that…

> I would like to see real-world examples. Because at least in my lifetime there have been zero consequences for people in power.

Liberia (1980 coup & 1989–2003 wars): Americo-Liberian elite overthrown by indigenous-led coups; cyclical elite purges, executions, and exiles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Liberian_coup_d%27état

Argentine Military Junta (1983): generals faced prosecution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_the_Juntas

Philippines – Marcos Family (1986): Ousted by "People Power"; Ferdinand Marcos fled, family assets frozen, political exile: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/06/17/Judge-orders-Marcos-...

Romania – Ceaușescu Regime (1989): Ceaușescu and wife executed after rapid regime collapse; party elite purged: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_and_execution_of_Nicolae...

Rwanda (1994): Hutu elite responsible for genocide overthrown by Tutsi-led RPF, the attempt to seek justice overwhelmed their legal system so hard that it was itself criticised by Amnesty International: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide#Aftermath; internationally, there were also trials and convictions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Tribuna...

Iraq (2003)/Libya (2011): External forces happened, Saddam Hussein got hanged, Muammar Gaddafi's death was the kind of thing people make laws to stop soldiers from doing.

And this year, that health insurance CEO who got assassinated, didn't they get their own legal strategy carved onto the bullets or something like that?

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by Balgair » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:42 PM UTC

kccqzy wrote: post #507

elAhmo wrote: post #467

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Those people should be filtered by CV screening, maybe some sort of email exchange before with a few questions to answer to 'ensure' human wants to invest some time in the interview process, rather than just spray and pray.

CV screening doesn't do much. They exaggerate and lie. My current employer has recently started to direct applicants to an online coding exercise. Like leetcode but easier, just to prove they can write code.

Wait, how does this thing work?

Can't you just vibe-code your way through it?

Genuinely curious on your thoughts on this idea here.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:42 PM UTC

kccqzy wrote: post #510

gloryjulio wrote: post #480

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Isn't that the 1st phone round? Most such people would not pass the technical portion of the phone call

This is also why I specifically told the recruiter at my employer to never ask me to do the 1st phone round. Too many under qualified people at this stage and it's depressing to write No Hire again and again.

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Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by ivape » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:42 PM UTC

akudha wrote: post #422

Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

I'd hate being interviewed by a bot. Talking to these stupid automated answering machines is bad enough. That said, the other side of the equation is also bad, for employers. I was asked to conduct some interviews recently. I asked the most basic of questions (like absolutely basic stuff, "what is an interface?" level basic). The number of people who said "I don't know" is far less than the number of people who tried…

Coding is now part of the current "side hustle" trope that's going on.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by assword » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:44 PM UTC

HaZeust wrote: post #310

throwawayoldie wrote: post #165

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It's where we're headed _if we let these assholes get away with it_. They have the money and guns, but we have the numbers.

Don't ever let anyone brainwash you into thinking we don't have the money and guns either.

You simply lack the organization, resolve, and popular support.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by njovin » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:46 PM UTC

atbpaca wrote: post #284

I quote: "applicants using the tech are overall happy with their experience—and its hiring manager clientele are enthusiastic". Let me translate the PR statement to the real-world: applicants dislike the tech and hiring managers are satisfied with lowering hiring costs.

> hiring managers are satisfied with lowering hiring costs

Since they've added the cost of an AI interviewer, it sounds like their actual satisfaction is derived from not having to properly do a pretty critical part of their job - screening applicants.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by strbean » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:48 PM UTC

Balgair wrote: post #522

kccqzy wrote: post #507

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CV screening doesn't do much. They exaggerate and lie. My current employer has recently started to direct applicants to an online coding exercise. Like leetcode but easier, just to prove they can write code.

Wait, how does this thing work? Can't you just vibe-code your way through it? Genuinely curious on your thoughts on this idea here.

They're probably using a platform that lets you replay the entire development session (see the pace of typing into a web IDE, what files they are looking at, etc.). Applicants will have to work pretty hard to fake natural-looking input of AI-generated code.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by Bigpet » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:50 PM UTC

throwawayoldie wrote: post #212

the__alchemist wrote: post #206

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This is some I've thought about more lately. It's taboo to use the word "lie" and accuse people of lying... I am attempting to use it in my vocabulary more and more, when appropriate. Which is surprisingly often.

I've noticed the word "bullshit" is making a big comeback, which is encouraging to me. Because, good Lord, is there ever so much bullshit.

Very appropriate as well because the machines are given a bunch of feed to digest multiple times and to spew it out the other end as a big steaming pile.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by ben_w » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:50 PM UTC

geraldwhen wrote: post #312

kergonath wrote: post #238

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> Please give me an example of what happens. It’s easy to forget after 80 years of stable western democracies, but brutal equilibrium shifts do happen. There was a revolution every ~20 years in Europe between 1789 and 1917. And even during the 20th century, the history of much of the world is full of coups, revolts, and uprisings. See all the revolutions in ex-soviet republics, the Arab spring, etc. So you can pick a…

Modern police and military gear is so advanced that revolution is unrealistic.

The gear generally requires an industrial base to keep it functioning. Given what was in SmarterEverDay's recent video about a barbecue cleaner, where so much of it ended up being imported despite their efforts (including chain mail!), I think in the event of another actual civil war, the USA would struggle to self-maintain any weapons more advanced than what you had in what is now "the" Civil War, and would be dependent on the whims of whichever foreign power wanted to support whichever sub-group.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by beefnugs » Mon, Aug 04, 2025, 6:51 PM UTC

Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

This is what they want though, reduce applicants. They dont want the best or smartest, they want exactly smart enough to use the exact tools, not smart enough to unionize or think independently in any way, especially not hesitate to direct arbitrary nonsense orders.