‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

Post by slt2021 » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

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you cannot defend the genocide (murder of people) by the increased birth rates. In fact, high birth rates is caused by high mortality rates. The more jews engage in genocide and murder of Palestinians, the higher will be fertility, this is the law of demographics. as for your Islam argument, the Islamic conquest was how many millennia ago? Is your argument that today we shall live by the laws of 7th century ? This on…

> high birth rates is caused by high mortality rates. This has been true in some places, e.g. Africa, but it is by no means a generalization. It is in fact grossly misleading because various countries have seen their Muslim populations explode while the mortality rate going down. High birth rate is more associated with religiousness than with mortality. > the Islamic conquest was how many millennia ago? The Islamic c…

Post by halflife » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

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I also think we passed the window for a two state solution. Having two ethno-nationalist states next to each other is bad. Giving them a very complicated border is worse. Having them hate each other with centuries of history and territory claims is even worse still. Then giving them both, let alone one, access to the global arms market is asking for never ending wars of annihilation. If you could design a situation t…

The only reason the Palestinians are considered "ethno-nationalist" is that they are opposing a facist, genocidal, actually ethno-nationalist state that has spread its propaganda that any disagreement on any grounds is anti-semitism. It's ridiculous and I know the moment I see someone dig into their bag of slander with that they are not arguing in good faith. JIDF out in force again.

Post by franczesko » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:00 PM UTC

Liron wrote: post #346

swat535 wrote: post #205

Can someone living in Israel help me understand what is going on right now? What does the political climate look like in Israel? Do majority of people support what is happening, if so why? if not, how is the government executing this? Further, has this had any impact on the overall relationship between Jewish people worldwide and those residing in Israel? if so, how? I know that the media is all over the place and it…

Israeli here, can't directly answer your question since I've lived in the US for 99% of my adult life, but I consider myself pro-Israel and resent the way Israel is currently/always being portrayed. I see the key problem as people removing context: Context for why the current situation could easily be different if Hamas acted/acts differently, and context for why there is no "just stop fighting" option that leaves Is…

Post by tptacek » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:01 PM UTC

slt2021 wrote: post #508

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I'm really not so much interested in litigating the broader conflict; just, this is a factoid that gets brought into these threads, and it's worth knowing the quote people are referring to was mischaracterized.

if we are interested in truth and justice, there is a mountain of evidence of genocide at ICC/ICJ awaiting the trial, so we should let the judicial process run its way, just like with Nuremberg trials

Post by corimaith » Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:02 PM UTC

brentm wrote: post #415

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Israeli here, can't directly answer your question since I've lived in the US for 99% of my adult life, but I consider myself pro-Israel and resent the way Israel is currently/always being portrayed. I see the key problem as people removing context: Context for why the current situation could easily be different if Hamas acted/acts differently, and context for why there is no "just stop fighting" option that leaves Is…

The problem here though is what will ever give Israel confidence that Oct 7 will never happen again? We know that going after terrorists for years and killing them just creates more terrorists (Iraq, Afghanistan). The young children who do not end up dying of starvation will be men in 20 years, still in Gaza with no options to leave and resent Israel who they will consider to be effectively their jailer. The situatio…