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America’s incarceration rate is in decline

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Re: America’s incarceration rate is in decline

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Post by footy »

missinglugnut wrote: post #485
Workaccount2 wrote: post #367

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Lifestyle is key here. An older friend conveyed to me pretty much the exact same thing you are, that he cannot imagine having kids at 40 because you will not be able to keep up with them energy wise. You get old and your body really starts to give in. Alright Geoff, thanks, but you are 54 and do zero exercise, have a diet of eating out at fast food and fast casual restaurants, a body type that would be described as "…

>Meanwhile at trail running meets, I bump into 60 year olds still giving some 35 year olds a run for their money. Interrupt that 60 year old's sleep twice a night with a newborn crying, add a bunch of new responsibilities, and I'll be impressed if he even makes it to the meet. You're comparing people who have made exercise their #1 priority in life to people who have made their kids and supporting their families fina…

You think someone going to a trail running meet has made exercise their #1 priority?

My father is 63, raised three children and has had a successful long marriage and retired from a good career. He also goes works out daily and did for most of my childhood. He didn't make exercise his number one priority.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

Tade0 wrote: post #483
Workaccount2 wrote: post #367

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Lifestyle is key here. An older friend conveyed to me pretty much the exact same thing you are, that he cannot imagine having kids at 40 because you will not be able to keep up with them energy wise. You get old and your body really starts to give in. Alright Geoff, thanks, but you are 54 and do zero exercise, have a diet of eating out at fast food and fast casual restaurants, a body type that would be described as "…

Physical shape is not the same or even proportional to the ability to pull all-nighters. I know two men 18 years apart in age who became fathers at the same time - two months apart to be exact. Even though the older is an avid gym-goer, it's only the younger who can pull off popping back into full strength after less than 6h of sleep.

My youngest was born when I was 47. He’s now 9. I also have a 13 yr born when I was 43. I’m tired but I don’t think it’s from the kids. (More I’m tired of working - been burning the candle at both ends for nearly 40 years.) The biggest difference of having kids at this age is that I don’t have time to myself or for myself like other parents around me so are by now empty nesters or close.

Re: America’s incarceration rate is in decline

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Post by chaps »

germinalphrase wrote: post #437
chaps wrote: post #413

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"This points more towards" -- you have any source towards this? :)

I know that in recent years Target has announced that they were investigating, in partnership with local and federal law enforcement, organized theft rings. It was publicly reported on here in Minneapolis.

Many, many of those claims were found to be significantly exaggerated. It bothers me immensely that people still talk about this nonsense.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-ret...

Re: America’s incarceration rate is in decline

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Post by chaps »

dfxm12 wrote: post #427
chaps wrote: post #413

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"This points more towards" -- you have any source towards this? :)

Why selectively put this onus on the person you've responded to and not the person at the top of this thread?

Um. The same could be said to you? I don't see what your point is.

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Post by specialist »

complianceowl wrote: post #443
specialist wrote: post #440

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Was also a young parent. Empathetic yes to all. Securing stable health insurance dictated most of my career decisions. I was captive to turrible gigs, had to pass on a lot of opportunities. Want to revitalize our society? #1 is Medicare for All. More startups, more risk taking & innovation, higher birth rate, etc. #2 is childcare. Cheap, plentiful, good quality. #3 is housing. Again: Cheap, plentiful, good quality. P…

I think willing to take a cut in one's standard of living so that the mother stays at home and raises the children would revitalize society beyond any of the above-mentioned options.

Or... Raise wages while reducing housing and insurance costs so that a single wage earner home can support their family. What my grandpa and grandma used to call "the middle class".

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Post by permo-w »

3eb7988a1663 wrote: post #210
permo-w wrote: post #47

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not forgetting that CCTV is absolutely ubiquitous and high def, where previously it was reasonably rare and low quality

I am doubtful widespread recordings are making much of a change. Unless you are Luigi Mangione, are police actually following video footage trying to tie up a crime? Even with a city wide alert, he almost escaped. It has been a common refrain that someone has an AirTag or other electronic surveillance they used to identify a thief, for which the police do nothing.

there's a major difference between an AirTag or tracking or some other form of relatively complex new-fangled technology that can be easily made to seem confusing or unreliable or even just inadmissible to a judge or jury, and high definition video evidence. if you're in a public place and there are a hundred video cameras, you're obviously going to be less inclined to do something illegal. this particularly being true for violent mob/gang activity

Re: America’s incarceration rate is in decline

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Post by specialist »

jimbokun wrote: post #484
specialist wrote: post #440

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Was also a young parent. Empathetic yes to all. Securing stable health insurance dictated most of my career decisions. I was captive to turrible gigs, had to pass on a lot of opportunities. Want to revitalize our society? #1 is Medicare for All. More startups, more risk taking & innovation, higher birth rate, etc. #2 is childcare. Cheap, plentiful, good quality. #3 is housing. Again: Cheap, plentiful, good quality. P…

> #2 is childcare. Cheap, plentiful, good quality. This costs infinite money. It's impossible to scale, because nobody wants an environment where their child is not getting attention from compassionate, engaged adults throughout the day. To get the same level of care as a stay at home parent, you need as many care workers as there are families with young children. And if you pay those workers comparably to the averag…

> write checks to families

Ideally, yes.

But I'm not going to tell someone they can't work.

My wife was stay-at-home, until she couldn't take it any more, and then returned to work. Even though it cost us more overall (childcare, second car, etc).

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Post by footy »

jimbokun wrote: post #515
markeroon wrote: post #492

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Most provinces in Canada have $10/day childcare

So the workers there are paid $10 / day? $50 if they’re watching 5 kids, $100 for 10, etc. That’s assuming 0 overhead.

No, it's subsidized. The same way public schools or libraries or universities are.

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Post by permo-w »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #272
lupusreal wrote: post #93

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Even if you leave your phone at home to create an alibi for yourself, it is very likely that CCTVs will see you enroute to the crime scene, if not at the crime scene itself. Between businesses with cameras, front door cameras on houses, and traffic cameras, it's very difficult to travel anywhere without leaving a trace that investigators can pick up after the fact if they're sufficiently motivated.

I have a (likely lifelong) mostly-unrealised project to try and document all the things necessary to maximise the anonymity of committing a petty crime, with the vague notion of turning it into a meta-story about the joys of pointless intellectual pursuits that cost far more than they materially return.

wi-fi/phone signal jammer would have to be included. most cctv operates wirelessly over wi-fi and no one is phoning the police with their phone signal jammed

Re: America’s incarceration rate is in decline

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

jimbokun wrote: post #480
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #464

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Who said anything about the idle lifestyle?

Implied by "single income". In reality in most families all family members were contributing something to the household income.

Income in this context means trading labor for cash.

In the past, huge amounts of household work were done without any such exchange.

Today, child raising, cleaning, cooking, provisioning, and more remain unpaid household labor. The people who do that work were not idle 800 years ago, and they are not idle today.

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