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Re: Working on databases from prison

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Actually, no they don't. With various forms of VAT and tariffs, things definitely do not cost the same in all countries.

The point is that they are definitely not cheaper than in the US

I generally pay 2x-3x the US price.

There are definitely countries with more expensive electronics.

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There's no such thing as a "homogeneous population". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realistic_conflict_theory#Robb... > From the study, they determined that because the groups were created to be approximately equal, individual differences are not necessary or responsible for intergroup conflict to occur. > Lutfy Diab repeated the experiment with 18 boys from Beirut. The 'Blue Ghost' and 'Red Genies' groups each contai…

Continuum fallacy. Might as well claim that there's no such thing as blue or violet, since there's a gradient between them. Also you can establish homogeneity using genetic analysis such as the fixation index. Unsurprisingly, Swedes and Finns are extremely closely related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index#Autosomal_genet... There are many possible metrics to measure heterogeneity, such as linguistic and r…

Then again if you look at the continium as something multidimensional. It is easy to make everything either a very specific hetrogenity or a big homogenic pile. The greatest fallacy is the group think, you can always create groups of people and that was the point. Given a bit of encourgement the dividing lines will shift. I have personal experience from work about this and I think some of these meaningless work things we do are there for a reason.

Understanding that we are hetreogenic is hard.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Sincere thanks! Some notes: in Connecticut, restraining orders can be granted for a variety of reasons, not restricted to domestic violence alone. Fairly close correlation but it does include, for example, stalking. It seems unwise to assume that restraining orders alone represent the entire count of domestic violence complaints that reach the legal system. For example, surely domestic violence arrests should be coun…

Yes I'm sure we could keep digging up more. I've been down this rabbit hole before so I know how it always ends: I provide a data driven take backed by source after source which ends in endless nitpicking and scrutiny and rejection of the sources, meanwhile unsourced hot takes go completely unchallenged without the demand sources, as seen in your sister comment. This is the key of this two-pronged approach, one comme…

Oh, I have no interest in going around and around about it -- that's not a good use of anyone's time. I think it's a somewhat understudied field, and was legitimately interested in your cites. Your material is way better than surveys about how many people feel like they've been falsely accused; relying on self-reporting like that is clearly flawed.

I also, for what it's worth, think that "did you talk to the wife" is too high a standard in this case. For one thing, the wife didn't bring a complaint, as I understand it.

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Without judging this guy's current state, he makes it clear in his first blog post that he was a dealer. "So instead of coming back home broke and apologetic, I ended up pretty deep into this and soon was making tens of thousands of dollars a week, very much unapologetically." Then, after his first sentence: "I was left with the difficult choice of either living there and walking to a temp agency with hopes of making…

Yes unfortunately for a long time my whole life revolved around 'drug culture', and so did of all my 'friends' and my entire social circle. I certainly cannot act like I did not deserve to come to prison, and it's definitely the only reason I am even alive right now. Coming to prison, specifically in Maine, was the best thing that ever happened to me.

Yeah, the really interesting thing there for me wasn't what you did, it's the clarity with which you presented your options as you saw them at the time. I am firmly pro-rehabilitation and that means I've got to be aware of the obstacles to getting out of that culture.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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You can agree to pay for them at a given prices via email or slack. It’s more or less guaranteed that contraband will get into prisons if someone is willing to pay for it. Thus the rules around no cash or phones for prisoners. Inmates are treated very differently by the legal system than regular people. Thirteenth Amendment: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the part…

You can also do that via a butt phone, which are everywhere.

Good point, in that case, let’s open it up and let it be a free for all. May as well let them take the drugs in through the front door, while we’re at it.

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Isn't this largely just a one off situation that happened to work out? I doubt there will be legions of prisoners working remotely. If that future did come to be, it would be rather dystopian imo.

More dystopian than people in prison not being able to prepare themselves for a life outside?

The moral hazard is rather high. At the limit, the entire white-collar work force is wrongfully imprisoned, working for slave wages.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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A prisoner costs taxpayers around $50k a year on average in US. If their "take-home" wage is $0.40/h, it may still be generous.

That cost should be taken by our government and the tax payer, as a disincentive to locking people up. If you can lock someone up and get close to free labor for it, then we're going to start locking a lot of people up. I mean, it's free labor. Which is why we used to give people 20 years for possession of marijuana. What, you think it's just a coincidence we were throwing primarily black Americans away in prison for…

Do you think prisoners are literally picking cotton?

Re: Working on databases from prison

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You can also do that via a butt phone, which are everywhere.

Good point, in that case, let’s open it up and let it be a free for all. May as well let them take the drugs in through the front door, while we’re at it.

Of all the things to be concerned about you picked drugs?

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Absolutely. But this is a separate question.

No, it's related. In programming, the only employment options are working for a government, for some corporation, or trying to sell directly to individuals? Somebody who had worked for a recognizable tech company is far more hireable than somebody who is Self Employed or who has worked for the government.

But that's not prison labor. Prison labor specifically refers to penal labor. You receive no pay, because the labor is part of the punishment for the crime. It is the prisoner who is paying off his debt. In those cases, I don't think it is moral for private companies to make use of that labor for private gain. Penal labor should only be used for public benefit.

Here, we're talking about preparing someone for the job market when they leave. Hence, these are two separate concerns. You cannot substitute the former with the latter.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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> Wow, 15-30 years seems like an insane amount of time for drug possession. The sentence was for intent to distribute. It's an extremely potent substance. This would be like discovering someone had 30,000 pills. You can't really argue that it was for personal use at that point. They also found him in possession of carfentanil (a more potent version of fentanyl), scales, baggies, and other products. This looks like a…

15-30 years is a bit heavy for 30 million doses even. 1.5-3 years is way more fair. 15-30 years of adulthood is like putting your child in timeout for 6 to 12 years (childhood being 0-19)! Is there anything your child could do to spend half his childhood living in a concrete room, maximum grounding? This is what we are doing to a man. No. 12 years is public school length so that should be the life sentence, in the in…

By what logic? I could just as easily say that 150 years is "way more fair."

A comparison with a literal child is disingenuous, children clearly aren't held to the same standards as adults.

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