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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by cherrycherry98 »

no_wizard wrote: post #295
pjmlp wrote: post #248

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Safari is the only reason we don't rename (yet) Web as ChromeOS development platform. Thanks everyone, especially all those Electron crap apps.

The real death knell is that Microsoft decided not to go with Mozilla in building the relaunched version of Edge. That would have been a very fruitful relationship, but they couldn't make it work. My understanding is - albeit its second hand - that they really didn't want to simply jump to Chromium, but Firefox proved far more complicated to do what they wanted to do. Ultimately, Microsoft Edge went from a pretty goo…

This has always been an issue with Gecko and the Mozilla codebase. It was a massive blow to the Mozilla community when Safari was released using KHTML instead of Gecko. Google then adopted WebKit (itself an evolution of KHTML) for Chrome, another slight for Mozilla. This despite prominent ex Mozilla developers like Lisa Melton, David Hyatt, Ben Goodger, and others being involved early on with Safari and Chrome development. Even Brendan Eich went with Chromium and not Mozilla technology for Brave.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

podgietaru wrote: post #255
marklar423 wrote: post #250

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I'm with you, I use Pocket all the time on my Kobo as well - I need to cobble together some self-hosted alternative. Did you find another alternative besides Omnivore?

I still use the self-hosted version of Omnivore - I had built quite a lot around it so when that shut down I just decided to transfer over. It was hard enough going from Pocket to something else, I didn't want to do that again. I actually have a Supernote now, and side-loaded the Omnivore App onto it - so I use my Kobo less (though still somewhat at night due to the backlight.)

Yay another Supernote fan! Love that device.

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Post by alwillis »

Lutger wrote: post #319
mvdtnz wrote: post #252

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How does that change the basic facts from the end users' perspective?

It doesn't, but the sentence referred to wasn't really aimed at them. I mean, Mozilla could ditch its engine and adopt chromium in order to really focus on advertising, and then it would also support said features from an end users perspective! Somehow I have a feeling that won't earn Mozilla praise. For all its flaws, Mozilla is actually the ONLY other company building a browser engine. When its gone, there will bas…

> For all its flaws, Mozilla is actually the ONLY other company building a browser engine. When it's gone, there will basically be only one left.

Safari's iOS/iPadOS global marketshare is about 33%; it's on 2+ billion devices. Definitely not going anywhere [1].

[1]: https://mycodelesswebsite.com/safari-statistics/

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by mikesabat »

segphault wrote: post #71

I was a user for so long that I was on it before it even rebranded as Pocket. I finally gave up on it last year, mostly due to frustration with the terrible 2023 redesign of the mobile app. When Mozilla made the unfathomable decision to become an internet advertising company, I figured it was just a matter of time before they had to put Pocket out to pasture. A product that's designed to strip ads from content for re…

I was a user for so long I used to call this app instapaper.

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Post by arikrak »

I've used Pocket from back when they were called "Read it later" and have saved just shy of 30k articles. They've gotten worse recently, but when I tried other apps (instapaper, getmatter, raindrop, paperspan, omnivore) they all had their own issues. Now I have to give those apps another try...

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by kinj28 »

We shut down a service called teamgum about 10 Years ago. Our service was priced 0 initially and had huge number of users. It was meant to share articles amongst a team and later on Google search show articles already discovered by colleagues which can be helpful. I remember Tucker m pocket was around then or was just launched.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by ilt »

arikrak wrote: post #526

I've used Pocket from back when they were called "Read it later" and have saved just shy of 30k articles. They've gotten worse recently, but when I tried other apps (instapaper, getmatter, raindrop, paperspan, omnivore) they all had their own issues. Now I have to give those apps another try...

Try Reader from Readwise. It's a great multi platform app which supports all kinds of reading mediums and can save articles, tweets, YouTube videos etc. It's a paid app, but well worth it. Look for comment from tristanho, the founder, below.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by al_borland »

randomor wrote: post #494
al_borland wrote: post #459

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The thing I don’t like about Apple’s implementation is the All list doesn’t show read/unread status. There is a list for unread, but not for read. I just pulled mine up to go through it and if I had to guess I have about 5 read out of probably 250. Which 5 those are, no idea. I also find it very easy to accidentally click on an item, which marks it as read without any visual indication. I just have to know this, and…

It's actually all saved in ~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist as bookmarks. You can drop that into https://chatgpt.com/g/g-6811b049cbdc8191b91c6ed291a88e4f-dou... which is a custom GPT I created for DoubleMemory. And see if it works. I do have plans to automate this in the future, right now still trying to collect feature requests confirmation tho.

I appreciate it, but I don't like the idea of uploading my whole bookmark file. I ended up vibe coding something with ChatGPT. It also asked to upload it, but I vetoed that and made it work. Since it is a well known file, it had data to work with.

Turns out all my exports were a waste of time, as it made it overly complicated and hard to parse, so it took the plist, extracted the reading list, pulled out the values I wanted (extracted the domain to give me that, because siteName was missing on almost everything), and gave me some clean json and a csv.

It turns out I had over 450 items in there. I thought it was going to be half that. I would never have gotten through that in Safari. Hopefully this will make it easier to scan through and dismiss most of these, and maybe highlight the couple I might still want. I have articles dating back to 2016... yikes.

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Post by rfonseca »

I was using Pocket to save articles to listen to in the car, with their ok TTS feature. Does anyone know of an easy solution that allows me to click to save an article, and then have it automatically on an app on my phone so I can listen while I drive?
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