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I tried Whisk to generate images which I then animated, thinking it would be using the newest model. But then I noticed that Veo 3 and Imagegen 4 are only usable through Flow, and only if you're on the most expensive plan. AI Studio also only shows Imagegen3 and Veo2 as media generating options. My main issue when trying out Veo 2 was that it felt very static. A couple elements or details were animated, but it felt u…
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>How is the requirement to use a computer and maybe pay a cloud subscription in the long term more accessible than other kinds of art? Because many other kinds of art require thousands of hours to learn before getting to the level of current AI The real gate keeper to art isn't the cost of a pencil, it's the opportunity cost of learning how to use it Some people have creative ideas they cannot realise and tools like…
>The more people that can realise their creative ideas the better it is for everyone There is a fundamental misunderstanding of creating going on here. There's a reason why people always talk about the work/journey/process rather than the end goal. That's what makes someone an artist--not the end result.
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>How is the requirement to use a computer and maybe pay a cloud subscription in the long term more accessible than other kinds of art? Because many other kinds of art require thousands of hours to learn before getting to the level of current AI The real gate keeper to art isn't the cost of a pencil, it's the opportunity cost of learning how to use it Some people have creative ideas they cannot realise and tools like…
>The more people that can realise their creative ideas the better it is for everyone There is a fundamental misunderstanding of creating going on here. There's a reason why people always talk about the work/journey/process rather than the end goal. That's what makes someone an artist--not the end result.
This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.
The fact that so many feel the same way about this technology (I do too!) is an indictment of humanity, not the technology itself. We _could_ use this to empower humans, but many of us instinctively know that it will instead be used to crush the human spirit. The end result of this isn’t going to be an expansion of creative ability, it’s going to be the destruction of creative jobs and the capture of these creative m…
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Your post strangely sounds like Nvidia primarily makes graphic cards for consumers. Last time I checked, they couldn't produce enough H100s/GB100s to satisfy demand from everyone and their mother running a data center. And their most recent consumer hardware offerings have been repeatedly called a "paper launch" - probably because consumer hardware isn't a priority, given the price (and profit) delta.
I read their comment as meaning that Nvidia should prioritise a specific kind of consumer/prosumer hardware. Nobody is running H100s at home, nor are most video companies running ones. So the choice for them is to "rent" them from Google, or... invest a lot in almost impossible to obtain Nvidia hardware? One has lower initial cost, and is available now.
But as long as Google isn't their _only_ customer, why would Nvidia care?
Can we talk about the elephant in the room, porn and i mean the weird and dangerous one? that moment in history of AI is going to happen and when it did shit will hit the fan.
We should all be hoping AI-generated CSAM floods the CSAM market, instead of trying to restrict AI so that we artificially prop the market up and cause harm to many more humans.
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The amount of gatekeeping I see when this topic is brought is outstanding! Why can't people be happy that more individuals would be soon able to create freely in a more accessible way? Personally I can't wait to see the new creative doors ai will open for us!
if I wasnt around to witness it over the last 10 years I would have thought most commenters on HN were bots pretending to be offended and gatekeeping for obscure profit motives. So the bad news is people are just insecure, jealous, pedantic, easy to offend, highly autistic - and these are the smart ones. The good news, is with dead internet theory they will all be replaced with bots that will atleast be more compelli…
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No. You're gatekeeping what "craft" is. Is craft making your own chisels for woodworking? Perhaps there are craftsman who buy chisels made by others. Okay. Then is craft only making furniture with dovetail joints by hand? Well, I guess people use planers. So, no it's not just hand made wood working that's craft. Someone uses a CnC machine with a design they made to cut wood, then hand sands and polishes. Is that craf…
>which is that I'd like more young folks to be positive, pick up tools at their disposal and build good things with them People have had access to tools for creating for generations. In the modern era you can buy a pencil and a sketch pad for dollars. You can buy an instrument used for as little as a hundred dollars. Hell, schools teach art and music for free. >The future's coming, and it's going to be built out by p…
I agree with the idea of “Amistics” (thanks Neal) - a sort of societal and moral lens to view technologies through and evaluate them. Totally with you there too.
I agree that doomscrolling and social media are cancer-y in the extreme, to the extent that for a number of years I printed a daily personal newspaper. Srsly.
> this tech will continue to hamper the livelihoods of artists …
Nope. We’ll just redefine what an artist is. Pop quiz: did Disney employ more “artists” when each cel of a film was hand drawn and colored, or now when these modern “faux-artists, not like the real ones” have access to rendering clusters?
Or a second pop quiz, when da Vinci or Rubens ran workshops where apprentices painted “da Vincis” or “Rubens(s?)” who was the artist?
By the way, it’s right to redefine what an artist is. I’m going to get super controversial, ca 1900 and say that photographers can be artists. Now I’m going to get super controversial ca 1910 and say that someone mounting a bicycle wheel as a ‘readymade’ and displaying it can be an artist. Wait, now I’m going to move ahead the 1980s and say a cow cut in half and suspended in some sort of formaldehyde can be art. Hang on. A poem on a disk that deletes itself as its read is art.
The art is the creative endeavor itself. It’s the outcome of a creative person engaging with whatever tools they want to create some output. If someone wants to engage with an LLM or diffusion model or whatever and have it make something to those standards, it’s art. Calling them ‘not an artist’ based on their choice of tools is just totally incorrect.
I’m not saying all uses of diffusion models or any other AI assisted imagery is art. But I am saying that ingesting and summarizing publicized images is not theft, and people choosing to use those tools to instantiate a creative vision can absolutely be art, and further that generally the cheaper a form of creative expression becomes the better on balance for the world.
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>The more people that can realise their creative ideas the better it is for everyone There is a fundamental misunderstanding of creating going on here. There's a reason why people always talk about the work/journey/process rather than the end goal. That's what makes someone an artist--not the end result.
I don't care at all about the philosophy of art. I have creative goals in mind and not enough time to become competent at all the prerequisite skills to master them.
You are consuming, not creating.
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>The more people that can realise their creative ideas the better it is for everyone There is a fundamental misunderstanding of creating going on here. There's a reason why people always talk about the work/journey/process rather than the end goal. That's what makes someone an artist--not the end result.
do you think taking a photo of something is skipping to the end goal of painting? no. it will just be used as a tool for more creativity for the people who will do the work.
Going outside and taking a photo requires you to be engaging with the scene around you. You are the actor doing the thing. When you prompt an AI, the AI is the actor doing the thing.