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Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by zie »

dugite-code wrote: post #373
zie wrote: post #96

I ditched for [silverbullet]( https://silverbullet.md ). MIT licensed, markdown editor with embedded lua scripting. It's a PWA app that works offline and syncs well.

It's got some rough edges. I want to sit down and build it so I can add an id to the TOC so I can CSS style it to be floating and submit it upstream. I'm also having issues with integrating it with Authentik's header proxy auth, keeps directing me to a note with the outpost path as the name. The only guide is for authelia.

It does, it's not perfect, but nothing ever is.

I haven't tried putting it behind Authentik or Authelia. They make it known in the Authelia guide what it is they care about being always exposed, vs password protected. Hopefully you get it figured out and you can update the docs so the next person doesn't have the same headache!

I just put it behind a .mydomain.com with a domain TLS cert and use the built-in auth.

The wildcard TLS cert keeps the from being public in the cert log. The only way you know the URL is if you have access to my DNS queries or have a MITM setup. Plus you still have to know my password.

Good Enough for me.

If I cared a bit more I'd put it behind Tailscale/Nebula/etc instead of having it publicly accessible. Maybe next time I'm bored I'll do that.

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by komali2 »

out_of_protocol wrote: post #387
ezst wrote: post #121

I went deep into to the PKMS rabbit hole a year and a half ago, benchmarked Obsidian and many many others, and settled with Trilium¹ which I can only highly recommend. It addresses all the hosting/deployment requirements of OP² without the quirky workarounds mentioned here (syncthing & al), and makes the kind of "lifestyle scripting" this article about very simple and straightforward. In my mind and experience, Trili…

Also, Trilium don't have mobile app which is very important for having notes available 24/7. Browser version don't allow offline access and not as convenient as an app

I just downloaded trillium for Android, it seems to work fine.

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by Falkon1313 »

vunderba wrote: post #3

Good article but as a heavy user of Obsidian (and previously Evernote), I would offer some counterpoints: > After some mental gymnastics weighing if I should continue with Obsidian, I found solace when asking myself "Can I see myself using this in 20 years?". I couldn't. The thought of cyclically migrating notes from one PKMS to another every 5 years, as I had done from Evernote to Notion to Obsidian, made me feel ti…

Yeah, I don't even do that. I just copy the files over if/when I want to. (Do people really not know how to use a basic filesystem to copy files these days?)

But mostly I don't. My work notes are on my work laptop and my personal notes are on my PC. I might copy them onto a mobile device if I'm traveling, but I might not bother. Mobile devices don't have the good keyboard and large screen to really be useful for stuff like that. But I have copied them over before just in case I wanted to find something in them.

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by Chris2048 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #323
wiseowise wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s common thought process: “tool that I use more than 10 times a day to amplify my knowledge? $10 a month? Eye watering!”. Oh well, time to grab that Uber eats for $20 third time this week.

People are really bad with quantifying things. I can easily grab a few imperial stouts for the weekend for 20€ but will balk at paying for a search engine. Until I did the math of use per euro and Kagi turned out to be well worth it. I just drink one beer less a month and it's paid for and I'm healthier too =)

The problem is that some things remain cheap by convention. Once you employ the above logic and show a willingness to pay for things, the rent-seekers will swoop in.

You can't break an imperial stout into parts and charge for each, and natural competition exist in supermarkets and/or even homebrew, limiting how much pubs/bars will charge.

The same is not true for computer service that can very easily become monopolised.

The addendum to "If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product", is "and if you are paying for the product, you are also still the product".

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by Chris2048 »

wiseowise wrote: post #311
montagg wrote: post #241

Wait. Sync is “free” if you want to use some other service other than Obsidian’s. I pay for Obsidian sync partially for slightly more convenience (fewer non-integrated points of failure) and also to support the app itself. I’d gladly pay $1000 over a decade for a crucial tool. If the concern is open source and true longevity, I get it, you don’t get that here. But cost for value? Holy shit. $1000 over a decade is abs…

That’s common thought process: “tool that I use more than 10 times a day to amplify my knowledge? $10 a month? Eye watering!”. Oh well, time to grab that Uber eats for $20 third time this week.

I think the rise of take-away services corresponds with a working professional middle-class for whom time spent cooking isn't worth the hourly rate of otherwise staying at work. Home cooking, or even eating out is still a much better proposition if you can afford the time.

I think professional tooling falls in the same category, but the problem I have is treating a general internet service such as a serach engine, or even an online encyclopedia as if it is also in the same category, where as I see it as a common utility, more akin to the availability of a library.

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by danparsonson »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #517
danparsonson wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of interest what add-ons do you use that make a big difference for your needs?

- Advanced URI: create advanced URI's to run actions like create new note, open daily note, or run Obsidian commands. I then add system wide hotkeys to activate these URI's to quickly either open a new note or create a new note. - Excalidraw. Create drawings and link/insert notes within your drawings without ever leaving the application. - omnisearch. Run circles around the native Obsidian search and also has an API…

Thank you!

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by _345 »

microtonal wrote: post #313
vunderba wrote: post #3

Good article but as a heavy user of Obsidian (and previously Evernote), I would offer some counterpoints: > After some mental gymnastics weighing if I should continue with Obsidian, I found solace when asking myself "Can I see myself using this in 20 years?". I couldn't. The thought of cyclically migrating notes from one PKMS to another every 5 years, as I had done from Evernote to Notion to Obsidian, made me feel ti…

Again, a little bit odd considering that the author is technically savvy enough to write an entire PKMS but didn't seem to consider that you can just check your markdown notes into a git repository and sync with the native android/iOS Obsidian app on a mobile device. Also, Obsidian supports free iCloud sync if you are a Mac and iOS user. I know that's only a subset of users, but a nice option to get Obsidian to sync…

Yeah the article was painful to read. $1000 in a decade? Its a decade, who cares. If you make 100k a year its 0.01% of your salary towards something you found worthwhile enough to use for ten years straight

the cheap sync plan is a scam though, it doesn't do enough to be even worth bothering with iirc

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by _345 »

JadedBlueEyes wrote: post #449
joseda-hg wrote: post #427

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't the syncthing android app deprecated relatively recently?

Syncthing-fork (of the android app, not syncthing itself) is a straight improvement.

Yes, I use this and it is pretty solid. I can recommend it

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by dpkirchner »

rasen58 wrote: post #472
dpkirchner wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run Tailscale on an Apple TV which is on a UPS. The thing uses very little power so the UPS lasts a long, long time.

Do you have to hack the Apple TV to run tailscale on it or how does that work?

There's an official tvOS app and you just have to configure the Apple TV to be an exit node. It doesn't require any special setup otherwise.

Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own

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Post by Grimblewald »

yathaid wrote: post #356

> Obsidian charges $8 a month to access the same notes across multiple devices. While not a huge amount for such a useful app, it adds up to an eye-watering amount - almost $1,000 if I planned to use Obsidian for a decade. This highlights one of my personal bugbears. People have a mental barrier when it comes to recurring, low-cost payments; even though the net sum is small in comparison to other things that they wou…

reoccuring costs for reoccuring labour (i.e. running a sync service) are IMO fine. You either pay with money, or with time for such things. At the price they're asking and for what is offered (sync and financial support of an awesome product) it seems like a steal to me.
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