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Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by grandempire »

Terr_ wrote: post #464
grandempire wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> he can't access anything the Legislature's laws say he can't. Can the legislature make rules for the president without constitutional amendment? I am interested- I’ll see if I can find examples.

Well, if the legislature truly cannot make any statue affecting the President, that has some terrifying implications. It would mean a President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping a child on the sidewalk outside 1600 Pennsylvania avenue Ave then murdering all of Congress by blowing up the Capitol. Recently, a majority on the Supreme Court has claimed there's immunity for "Official Acts", but hasn't…

> cannot make any statue affecting the President,

I didn’t say affecting - I said limiting the power of.

A regulatory procedure the president is asked to follow is different than saying “we made this information off limits”.

> President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping

That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by [deleted] »

twalkz wrote: post #8

> According to a whistleblower complaint filed last week by Daniel J. Berulis, a 38-year-old security architect at the NLRB, officials from DOGE met with NLRB leaders on March 3 and demanded the creation of several all-powerful “tenant admin” accounts that were to be exempted from network logging activity that would otherwise keep a detailed record of all actions taken by those accounts. Feels like a pretty good Occa…

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Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by grandempire »

dfedbeef wrote: post #111

The CEO of Tesla and Space-X; a self-proclaimed high IQ individual, an alleged programmer, has apparently hired a straight-up script kiddie to their elite delta force of technical government downsizers.

> a straight-up script kiddie

Why is the age such a talking point? An insight in startup culture is that the public underestimates young people, especially when it comes to business skills with objective results and tight feedback cycles.

It just seems like now that HN is skewed older we no longer believe that?

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by throwaway290 »

marcusb wrote: post #519
throwaway290 wrote: post #497

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I wouldn't expect somebody to use their main non throwaway account, which probably ties to their job or school to write this today... when if someone in the gov doesn't like what you say they do things like cancel your visa or sanction your employer.

Cool. I'd expect such a throwaway account to be a bare throwaway account and not have multiple learning-project style repos with activity spreading out over a period of a few years, such as you see with the author of the critique/rant posted on the DOGE guy's repo.

I wouldn't. I use a throwaway for multiple years myself lol. And he or she could just use some friend's anonymous account.

And I like how you request good faith review of a guy who is part of the team busy dismantling US government from the inside. Like who would even think to review that if not because of it. What matters is is it correct or not.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by watwut »

jiggawatts wrote: post #492
watwut wrote: post #483

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>This is the prison guards flipping the mattress looking for contraband. No its not. These prison searches in fact do tend to find knives and what not and do in fact have some role in managing prison violence. This is not about anything like that at all.

It’s an analogy about established civilised audit procedure versus whatever DOGE is doing, which is… not that. It’s not about literal shivs. Speaking of finding things under the mattress, they did find corruption and waste, which they feel justifies their approach. In my opinion the tiny amount of “waste” they uncovered is arguably not worth the damage and risk done, but that’s my opinion, not theirs. Again: the dama…

> Speaking of finding things under the mattress, they did find corruption and waste, which they feel justifies their approach.

As far as I know, they did not found much. Every time their claims were checked, it was hot air. We do not have to lie on their behalf to appear reasonable.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by grandempire »

lysp wrote: post #510
jppope wrote: post #198

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I agree with the script kiddies comment- which is basically what the reporting has shown... but in a way isn't that part of the point? That they can save billions of dollars just by having a couple of relatively normal comp sci kids (who can't even rent a car) review the most basic financial information of our government departments. These guys aren't supposed to be "delta force" they are supposed to be the interns.…

> I agree with the script kiddies comment- which is basically what the reporting has shown... but in a way isn't that part of the point? I agree, but for a different point. Generalising, but under the age of 25, most people don't have enough experience (business/government) to understand things such as business ethics, the consequences, auditing practises, privacy concerns, etc. With professional experience, you deve…

People under the age of 25 generally work for older people - and that’s true of DOGE as well.

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Post by sremani »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #109
sremani wrote: post #92

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Whistleblowers are protected by law. If their data is being exfiltrated then they may become targets of harassment.

So this is speculation that laws "may" be broken but nothing beyond that. Might be harassed. Even by HN standards this daily Elon burning rituals are a new low.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by 0x3444ac53 »

grandempire wrote: post #523
dfedbeef wrote: post #111

The CEO of Tesla and Space-X; a self-proclaimed high IQ individual, an alleged programmer, has apparently hired a straight-up script kiddie to their elite delta force of technical government downsizers.

> a straight-up script kiddie Why is the age such a talking point? An insight in startup culture is that the public underestimates young people, especially when it comes to business skills with objective results and tight feedback cycles. It just seems like now that HN is skewed older we no longer believe that?

Script kiddie isn't about age, it's just a derogatory term for someone who never learned to write their own code, instead only slightly modifying and/or straight up running someone else's code that they don't actually understand very much.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by grandempire »

0x3444ac53 wrote: post #528
grandempire wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a straight-up script kiddie Why is the age such a talking point? An insight in startup culture is that the public underestimates young people, especially when it comes to business skills with objective results and tight feedback cycles. It just seems like now that HN is skewed older we no longer believe that?

Script kiddie isn't about age, it's just a derogatory term for someone who never learned to write their own code, instead only slightly modifying and/or straight up running someone else's code that they don't actually understand very much.

It doesn’t seem entirely separate from age - as several other reply’s to this comment are about age.

I also think your description applies well to many startup founders.

Re: DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by mananaysiempre »

orbital-decay wrote: post #478
mythrowaway49 wrote: post #263

this part of the whistleblower complaint seem way worse: " On or about March 11, 2025, NxGen metrics indicated abnormal usage at points the prior week. I saw way above baseline response times, and resource utilization showed increased network output above anywhere it had been historically – as far back as I could look. I noted that this lined up closely with the data out event. I also notice increased logins blocked…

>Primorskiy Krai Probably the least expected location to connect from, if it was genuine. Not saying it necessarily isn't, but it's not usual either and doesn't make much sense.

Right?.. Primorskiy Krai, official population 1.8M, of which the largest city of Vladivostok accounts for 600k and the next three largest cities for about 400k more, and the rest of the settlements are below 50k inhabitants each. China (Heilongjiang) to the west, North Korea to the south, Japan (Hokkaido) to the east. Literally six times closer to Tokyo than to Moscow (and only a bit closer to Moscow than to Vancouver), connected to Moscow by the longest train route in the world (six to seven days). A reputation for fierce independence and old Japanese left-hand-drive cars. That Primorskiy Krai.
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