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Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by genewitch »

mrheosuper wrote: post #496
bee_rider wrote: post #274

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Yeah, it is the chat program treadmill. Spend investor money to host a completely commoditized program. Of course it is better than the version that costs money by virtue of being free. Eventually run out of investor money and do something unpopular to raise revenue, leaving the opportunity for the next iteration to come in for free and take your spot. The only thing I don’t really understand is why investors keep fa…

you can make something free and still profitable. Google search for example. I've been waiting for years to see something replacing it

I haven't used Google search in over a decade.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by 1oooqooq »

surajrmal wrote: post #226
1oooqooq wrote: post #203

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that's like selling email with gpg as easy to use compared with newgroup. anything win when compared to the ultimate underdog. but that's hardly a valid comparisons. discord only win from other opensource forums because you don't have to own a domain, i guess.

Like reddit or Facebook groups? Discord being realtime chat is an important part as well. I don't think it was necessarily competing with traditional forums that are post and thread based.

discord as opensource support forums compete with irc (the ultimate underdog) and discourse et al (all which require a domain)

the real time part of irc was taken over by matrix.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by genewitch »

carlgreene wrote: post #451

Can we stop building communities in non-indexable locations? The death of forums and hence “google-ability” for problems and solutions is so depressing. The UX is worse in every way

No. "AI" companies, business model: Uber for IP theft, have ruined this for everyone.

Or so I've heard.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by hirako2000 »

windward wrote: post #311
hirako2000 wrote: post #290

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Investors aren't falling for it. Users are falling for it. Leaking millions for years pays off in the end, or even half way through. Some investors would exit at some stage. Taking profit due to valuation going up, despite no revenue/profit. At the end of the tunnel is acquisition by a major player who is basically buying the users. Typical examples: Skype, whatsapp. But also LinkedIn. GitHub. Businesses that offered…

Skype is ending this year. Some founders and investors won but only thanks to greater fools. (notable that three of the four greater fools in your post are Microsoft)

May not be clear, even to finops at Microsoft. Skype tech ended up in Lync subsequent versions, aka Skype for enterprise. The user base also became a free ad target (to buy the entire consumers tool suite) I remember being constantly nudged to sign up for the free 30 days One Drive to backup Skype pictures and the jazz. So creative these heads of sales at MS.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by genewitch »

Aachen wrote: post #312
magicalhippo wrote: post #64

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https://github.com/revoltchat/self-hosted As for clients I don't know.

8 GB RAM minimum for a non-graphical server software?! This thing must have more components and services than my desktop OS while having a few website open in Firefox and Chromium each

Synapse, after a reboot and the cache is cold, uses less than that. I don't think our synapse server even has 8GB allocated to it.

But that's for private chat, we can't join large rooms because I deployed our server as a test, alongside Mattermost and rocket.chat. I haven't felt compelled to switch to dendrite or whatever, nor split the synapse microservices out, nor install postgres on a dedicated VM, and so on. All of which would make someone else's matrix experience better but my life ^ that much worse.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by genewitch »

q0uaur wrote: post #187
like_any_other wrote: post #109

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License? Isn't revolt open-source, so you could have as many users as your server can handle? https://github.com/revoltchat/backend uses the AGPL, I assume whatever other things a revolt server requires have similar licenses.

sorry, i mixed it up with rocket.chat, another "foss" discord replacement.

Rocket wasn't that way when we used it, but it turned into a snap or flatpak or something, and as me, I won't maintain opaque software.

Matrix does everything we need, to where the group on matrix and the people I talk to on discord are a two separate circle Venn diagram.

Matrix also lets you inline files, do threads (y tho), voice chat, video chat. I don't know if it does conference calls or screen sharing as we don't use that.

I had to sign everyone up in my family. Because "change the server to 'matrix.whatever.com'" is impossible for nearly everyone.

Discord? Click a link you're in.

I don't like discord that much - I don't have it installed on my cellphone with a SIM.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by culi »

jimmydoe wrote: post #350
jonathantf2 wrote: post #228

Interestingly (and sadly) the largest deployment of this was probably on Andrew Tate's grift course website thing, see the dev's blog: https://insrt.uk/post/andrew-tate-stealing-software-revolt

The largest Mastodon deployment is truth social. https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2021/10/trumps-new-social-medi...

It's not exactly an instance though. They just stole most of the Mastodon code. In theory it could be opened up so other instances could subscribe to the Truth Social feed but we don't really know how feasible that is and how much of the protocol/code was modified
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