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X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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post #48

I'm not defending Twitter or their policy in any way (disclaimer: I left Twitter the moment Elmo took over. I despise his hypocrisy and his fascist ideas) But this could be a "legitimate f-up". Normally, most of these unsafe-url protection and detection is automated in something with the scale of Twitter. Just like URL-shorteners often are (were?) "seemingly randomly" banned, because a portion of the shared urls are…

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#522
post #488

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No, this is just mood affiliation. Usually, posting on Twitter or quitting it has a very tiny, almost imperceptible effect on the larger world and it's certainly not something to get worked up about.

That's reversing the argument. I'm not saying quitting X is bad for X, I'm saying quitting X is good for you. Nobody's completely immune to whatever that sociological experiment is turning into and staying on X is likely to influence your ethics, morals and standards in an objectively negative way.

Even personally, you couldn't possibly know whether it's positive or negative for a random stranger on the Internet, because it depends on how much they use it and what they use it for.

For example, keeping a Twitter account in case someone wants to contact you seems pretty harmless.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#523
post #100
post #48

I'm not defending Twitter or their policy in any way (disclaimer: I left Twitter the moment Elmo took over. I despise his hypocrisy and his fascist ideas) But this could be a "legitimate f-up". Normally, most of these unsafe-url protection and detection is automated in something with the scale of Twitter. Just like URL-shorteners often are (were?) "seemingly randomly" banned, because a portion of the shared urls are…

I will go with "legitimate f-up" too. Elon Musk has been pretty vocal about Signal in the past, mostly positively. If blocking Signal URLs has been intentional, he would have probably have mentioned it somewhere. Shortened URLs are dubious by default. It is also possible that there really is a lot of spam/scam happening on Signal right now with signal.me URLs as an entry point. I mean, why not? Every messaging platfo…

Are links to mastodon still banned on twitter? Because that was a thing after Musk took over. So much for being a free speech absolutist.

You're making the mistake of taking a (communal + antagonistic) narcissist at face value. They are known to lie to suit their current goals and when those goals are achieved, they will lie to suit their new goals, whether the lies are congruent with each other or not.

This is a guy who:

- publicly called a rescuer "pedo guy", then falsely claimed it's a common insult from South Africa

- in a private email called him a "child rapist" and made up allegations of a 12 yo bride

- hired a PI to dig up dirt on him (which failed to corroborate any of his allegations)

Western society really needs to destigmatize discussion of mental illness, including diagnosing public personalities based on their behavior. Give them an opportunity to defend themselves, sure, but at some point, they become a danger to others (usually not to themselves) and should be required to seek treatment or be committed to a mental institution.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#524
post #513
post #497

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What about cyber grooming? So you think you can’t damage people’s psyche through words?

> What about cyber grooming? Words are still just words until they are acted on, but this is just my opinion and you are entitled to yours. > So you think you can’t damage people’s psyche through words? Not sure where you got that from, of course it is possible. But we are all gatekeepers of our own minds. You seem to be ignoring my responses and trying to lead me further into extreme examples to trap me. Carry on if…

If an extreme example could trap you there would be limit to free speech, so there can’t be trap, just proof.

You overestimate the power of your mind. Constant attacks breaks everybody and don’t forget the mind of children and young people is even weaker. But it doesn’t matter because free speech over all?

Back to extreme examples, what about Charles Manson? He didn’t kill anybody, was his imprisonment wrong?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#525
post #212

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You can't criticize Elon on X...

Heres a random post from X wishing he could shoot Musk and his kid

https://x.com/cerpin415/status/1889763808874258448

What part of this is not allowed on X?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#526
post #220

At this point you're actively contributing to the death of free speech if you're still active on X in any way. There are no excuses to use it still if you have any sort of functional moral compass.

No, this is just mood affiliation. Usually, posting on Twitter or quitting it has a very tiny, almost imperceptible effect on the larger world and it's certainly not something to get worked up about.

No raindrop…

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#527
post #73

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You might be onto something, I noticed that all the banned links were in the format: https://signal.me/#eu/fdy5h1miMifXa ... The URL hash (the part after #) is often not considered by automated systems to be a part of URL that's meaningful, because hash is normally only used for addressing parts of the website that was loaded based on the previous part of the URL. If a particular Signal.me link was flagged for whatev…

You can actually post links of the form https://signal.me/asdf . But https://signal.me/#asdf is blocked. That supports you point of view, I guess?

Or they just did a poor job of implementing the block on signal links

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#528

Ironically, three years ago, Musk encouraged the use of Signal and tweeted: " Use Signal ", https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1347165127036977153 Edit: In my opinion, Elon Musk initially endorsed Signal because of its strong encryption, security, and commitment to privacy. Now, he's blocking it for those very same reasons—what a blatant double standard! On a related note, one of the key advantages of the modern internet—…

On X, only the "Signal.me" links are blocked. Other types of Signal links, such as call links, group invite links, Signal.org links, and link previews, are not blocked on the platform. [From Mistral]

what does „from mistral“ mean in your comment?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#529
post #233
post #196

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> allowing hate, racist, homophobic, and transphobic language to run rampant Are the people with these views not also entitled to free speech and equal rights to express themselves the same as everybody else?

Free speech doesn't allow you to say anything at all you know? Calling for the eradication of people with certain sexual preferences or skin color for example.

You can actually call for the eradication of certain groups in the US under the 1st amendment.

The limit is basically “speech which threatens imminent violence”.

So saying “we should kill all group X” is fine. Saying “lets go kill those people from group X standing on Main St at 2pm” is not ok.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

#530

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The purpose of a system is what it does.

Seems reductive.

But in the absence of credible information to the contrary, it's not wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...

when a system's side effects or unintended consequences reveal that its behavior is poorly understood, then the POSIWID perspective can balance political understandings of system behavior with a more straightforwardly descriptive view

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