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He founded (for some definition) the two most impressive American corporations of the century and tweeted a lot to build a direct connection to people.
You may be referring to PayPal as one of those companies, but in case you’re not: Elon did not found Tesla.
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Do not check out Kanye West on x unless you want to see what no censorship means (spoiler alert: a guy with 33m followers posting porn and glorifying nazism).
As of a little while ago, he’s gone from X
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Elon's response: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889062013109703009 > Swindler In another tweet chain: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889063777792069911 > Scam Altman
wow I had no idea the level of discourse on that x website was so low, has it always been like this?
Yes I know I can mute. But the settings can get reset and this has happened several times.
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So opposition spending $250M to win an election and then given control over government spending by that same president, while owning companies that have billions in government contracts, is Marxism? In most non-Marxist democratic countries, the above would be considered corruption.
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>What’s impressive about Tesla? There is this weird revisionist history now that Musk is hated to dismiss all Tesla's accomplishments as meaningless. The traditional auto industry would have never embraced EVs to the extent they have if someone did not disrupt the market in a way like Tesla did. That is both impressive and huge net positive for humanity in a way that is an extremely rare achievement for any startup.
They arent meaningless, Tesla did some pretty cool shit. And then they shipped a very small quantity of cars that have poor maintenance and the kind of vendor lockin that we get shitty at John Deere for. The issue isnt that Tesla did stuff. Its that its all historical stuff that doesnt justify its current market price. If I was to invest in a car company I would want them shipping millions of cars, not a "net positiv…
And to make it explicit, I dislike Musk as much as the next guy and I absolutely would not invest in Tesla at this point, but we shouldn't let that bias our view of history.
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#526Considering Musk's power and the shrinking moat of OpenAI you would think he would be create something better with government support - or as some new department.
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I don't get what is "financial terrorism" here: He's making an offer to buy something at twice the price of the other offer on the table. I'm not sure it'd be a good deal for Musk but it looks like a good deal for the seller.
I don't understand it either. Why is Elon Musk a "terrorist"? And why is this the most upvoted post? Maybe being European limits my ability to comprehend American political rhetoric.
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You can choose as an investor between: a) Coca-Cola (~$300B, profitable, stable, stock-listed, well-known addictive brand, accepted business model with steady growth) b) OpenAI (bleeding cash: $5B lost last year, tech that is not really novel anymore, weird corporate setup, competition that offers similar products). It's not that easy to support the idea that OpenAI will be the winner.
OpenAI is pre-revenue, they're a pure play . It's not about how much you earn, it's about how much you're worth.
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#529It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.
He single handedly also vindicated one of the most authoritarian regimes - China - in how it slapped Jack Ma as soon as he started entering politics and gaining influence beyond tech entrepreneurship.
I think I see what you mean, but it’s dangerous to casually say such a hostile and powerful state’s corruption could ever be vindicated.
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They arent meaningless, Tesla did some pretty cool shit. And then they shipped a very small quantity of cars that have poor maintenance and the kind of vendor lockin that we get shitty at John Deere for. The issue isnt that Tesla did stuff. Its that its all historical stuff that doesnt justify its current market price. If I was to invest in a car company I would want them shipping millions of cars, not a "net positiv…
> If I was to invest in a car company I would want them shipping millions of cars Tesla shipped 1.2 million of the Model Y alone in 2023, making it the best selling car worldwide. They sell about half as many cars as Ford, at 9x the profit margin.