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The message also suggests this may only be a temporary disappearance. TikTok credits President-elect Donald Trump for indicating “he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office,” with users urged to “stay tuned!” This is the most unusual endorsement I've seen, admittedly of a most unusual President.

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Good riddance. It was nothing but brainrot, spyware and propoganda. Though it's hardly unique in that regard. That's modern social media now.

Don't forget that it also added to the massive loss of focus and learning abilities of young people. ChatGPT does the rest.

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It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

Do people believe that the US government's control over Instagram/Twitter/whatever are similar to the level of control China's government has over TikTok? I'm not that educated on the subject (I think most people who are making claims either way about this aren't), but all my priors indicate to me that China's government collects data from and controls content (to be shown only to the western populace) in TikTok much…

I don’t think US government controls social media like china, but after the constant news about all the social media CEO’s hanging out with the president I am not surprised many people start to get a feeling that something is up.

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The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

To save you a click, the message displayed on TikTok reads: - - "Sorry, TikTok isn't available right now. "A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok for now. "We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!" - - That last paragraph is 100% the language of auth…

Are they wrong? Tiktok being available again does depend on Trump and Trump alone.

It sounds like an authoritarian regime because it is one.

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A point I think most people don’t understand is that the government interest in TikTok has little to do with exploiting user data per se, a lot of other companies do that. The issue is that TikTok is somewhat unique in being aggressively weaponized in currently very active “grey zone” conflicts. This has been an open secret in national security circles but the average person on the street has no idea what a grey zone…

The "aggressively weaponized in currently very active grey zone conflicts" sounds very very scary! Do you actually mean that young Americans are using it to teach each other about the US-enabled Israeli occupation of Palestine?

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There's an interesting cognitive bias in the western media that tends to define freedom of the press (and freedom of expression) as exactly what is perceived as freedom in this side of the iron curtain. Libgen domains are "seized", and tiktok "goes dark", but of course other countries "censor" porn or news outlets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index

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But that is precisely what I was talking about. You do not seem to find any commonality between censoring different categories of websites or apps. As far as I understand it, "media", "gambling", "porn", "politics" are quite common categories when researching (and defining) online censorship. See, for instance, https://censoredplanet.org/censoredplanet

You say "banned", but that is not quite the same as "censored". Just try and search, you will see the US "bans" and China or Iran "censor". Perhaps one regime's "censorship" is experienced as "lawfully banned" from within the context of their legal and cultural system.

And no, I don't see why would I keep my edgy observations to myself. That would be self-censorship :)

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