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Re: Nobody cares

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Post by throwaway290 »

chgs wrote: post #503
throwaway290 wrote: post #483

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three led lights in my flat went within 3 months after I moved in. But some time ago I had an incandescent bulb that lived for years. With bulb it depends on how/how often you power cycle. A good way to extend its life is to not power cycle it and to underpower it. Dimming a bulb also saves electricity and easier on the eyes. With LED it is up to manufacturer. People say LEDs are cheaper but those leds are exactly th…

On the one hand you have your Anne site, on the other hand there’s decades of data.

And only one of them is directly pertinent. None of the "decades of data" takes into account correct exploitation. But all talks about leds are about perfect spherical cow in vacuum that doesn't exist for average consumer

I am sure leds technically do live longer than bulbs. But the difference is not significant enough in real life.

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Post by xivzgrev »

I mean, it’s a symptom of scale right?

When you deal with a wide variety of people, constraints, etc you develop processes to deliver output. The DMV is that way for a reason, sidewalks get made a particular way for a reason

And that’s that, you don’t rethink it every time. It’s all transactional. human APIs interfacing with other human APIs

It’s a long cry from the old timey village where you had people: Bob was the only baker, and your neighbor. You also need his help to shovel your driveway. But he needs your help to make house repairs and get eggs from your chickens. If you don’t care then you have longer term personal consequences.

That’s not the case today - if you don’t care and deliver subpar experiences, people rant then move on to their next transaction and you to yours. You aren’t affected one bit in the long run. (Assuming people don’t have a choice - if they do then you do care just enough to get the sale)

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Post by listenallyall »

wat10000 wrote: post #273
listenallyall wrote: post #264

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This seemed like a poor example for the author to choose, of "not caring." Annoying, sure. But these extra upsells originate from someone who definitely cares about increasing revenue and is aggressively exploring multiple avenues to achieve it.

Companies don’t care about you, they care about your wallet, extraction of money from. The most pleasant companies to deal with are the ones who have found a niche where customer satisfaction helps with the goal of wallet, extraction from. But at best it’s a means to an end, and McDonald’s is definitely not one of those companies.

The article was about not caring at all, as in total apathy. Not "we're going to work really hard to purposely create anti-patterns."

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Post by automatic6131 »

cokeandpepsi wrote: post #468
automatic6131 wrote: post #183

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>Why doesn’t Japan have this problem? Japan has some of these problems. For example: they do not care about homeless people. In Japan, I saw a homeless person sleeping between two car lanes, amongst some bushes. Literally 50cm of space separating cars, and he was lying there with his possessions.

aren't homes generally extremely cheap in most of Japan?

They are cheap because they are in disrepair, in an area with no jobs (or only subsistence farming) and limited services. In central Tokyo, they are cheap compared to cities in most of the West but too expensive to keep up a good drinking habit without working and on limited out-of-work benefits.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by phito »

tqi wrote: post #425

Its ironic, because this dude doesn't seem to care enough to even the slightest bit of research to understand why any of these problems he highlights are the way they are, and lazily attributes everything to OTHER people not caring. LEDs last longer, are more energy efficient, and also reduce light pollution because they are more directional[1]. Took me 30 seconds to google. There are enormous design standards for de…

Except he is talking about the color of the LEDs. Blue LEDs are terrible, just put orange ones. Has nothing to do with the fact that it's LEDs or hallogen.

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Post by jeffhuys »

arretevad wrote: post #454
sureglymop wrote: post #253

> We have examples like Elon who, through sheer force of will, defeats armies of people who don't care. For his many faults, you can't say the man doesn't care. I fully expected that bit. Can't say I would agree in any way though. If anything, a perfect example of a person with way too much agency and executive power and way too little restraint and rationality. The perfect anti social candidate to not care but to wa…

Elon only cares about enriching himself.

I think he mostly cares about getting humanity off this planet, he's been saying that for a long, long time.

Starting a space company to enrich yourself sounds like a very weird thing to do if you only care about money.

Re: Nobody cares

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Post by jeffhuys »

notfed wrote: post #433
BhavdeepSethi wrote: post #309

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What do you not agree with? That he doesn't care? I would assume scaling Tesla, SpaceX, SolarCity are net positive for the world (as it stands). Can you achieve those ambitious things if the leader/ceo of the company doesn't care?

You know what what happens when you assume...

Good rebuttal, very nice debate.

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Post by lloeki »

a_e_k wrote: post #477
easygenes wrote: post #441

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It’s possible to install warm colored LEDs with very little blue light output though. You get all those benefits without giving up the more-suitable-for-night sodium light spectral benefits.

The funny thing is, in my neck of Seattle (the city this post is complaining about), I've seen some of the harsh white LEDs that went in switched over to a warmer color. I remember being quite shocked when I pulled into a city-owned parking lot one night and realized that all of the lights around were all now a warmer color instead of the harsh white. The lights in my neighborhood also seem to have been switched over…

In my city they started turning off all streetlights at midnight outside of major driving lanes and active center areas.

It's weird and somewhat unnerving at first but brilliant. I'd argue road-wise it is possibly even safer because headlights work so much better when it's pitch black by virtue of the human eye having so much dynamic range.

Pedestrians can't miss cars as they're blasting light through the dark; cars can't miss bikes because even passive reflectors are blaring in the surrounding darkness; even pedestrians end up being more visible because of the higher contrast, cast shadows, and movement that conspire to make them plainly pop out like cardboard props or Doom 3 flashlight jumpscares.

And when you go out of the dark zone into a major axis that's bathed in light that feels warm and safe it's like everything is suddenly muted and flattened as if reality went through a low contrast sepia-tinted desaturation filter. You feel like you see better but everything is muddled together in the sameness of uniform lighting.

The experience is highly cognitively dissonant and counterintuitive.

Re: Nobody cares

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frotty wrote: post #200

100% of the people around me at work care. I wish they didn't, because they're bad at their job and "them caring" puts them as a peer for experts and people who both care AND are competent/experienced via design by committee and inclusion. Their incompetency is explained away as "unique point of view." So perhaps the entire piece is an exercise in overgeneralization, where you assume that everyone has a baseline amou…

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