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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by danpalmer »

Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

Because they can't do long context windows. That's the only explanation. What you can do with a 1m token context window is quite a substantial improvement, particularly as you said for enterprise usage.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by fudged71 »

jwpapi wrote: post #501
fudged71 wrote: post #482

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The new pricing tier suggests they're taking the Jobs approach - betting that their technology integration and reliability will justify premium positioning. But they face more intense commoditization pressure than either IBM or Apple did, given the rapid advancement of open-source models. The critical question is timing - if they wait too long to establish their enterprise position, they risk being overtaken by commo…

It’s not just opensource. It’s also Claude, Meta and Google, of which the latter have real estate (social media and browser)

Yes and Anthropic, Google, Amazon are also facing commoditization pressure from open-source

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by energy123 »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #475
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #444

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Yeah but they "detect" the characteristic AI style: The limited way it structures sentences, the way it lays out arguments, the way it tends to close with an "in conclusion" paragraph, certain word choices, etc. o1-Pro doesn't do any of that. It writes like a human. Damnit. It's too good. It just saved me ~6 hours in drafting a complicated and bespoke legal document. Before you ask: I know what I'm doing, and it did…

> Before you ask: I know what I'm doing, and it did a better job in five minutes than I could have done over those six hours. Seems like lawyers could do more faster because they know what they are doing. Experts dont get replaced, they get tools to amplify and extend their expertise

Replacement doesn't happen only if the demand for their services scales proportional to the productivity improvements, which is true sometimes but not always true, and is less likely to be true if the productivity improvements are very large.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by frakt0x90 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

Have you considered RAG instead of using the entire document? It's more complex but would at least allow you to query the document with your API of choice.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by wavemode »

motoxpro wrote: post #311

If one makes $150 an hour and it saves them 1.25 hours a month, then they break even. To me, it's just a non-deterministic calculator for words. If it getting things wrong, then don't use it for those things. If you can't find things that it gets right, then it's not useful to you. That doesn't mean those cases don't exist.

The question is, whether you couldn't have saved those same 1.25 hours by using a $20 per month model.

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Post by itissid »

Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

I've been concatenating my source code of ~3300 lines and 123979 bytes(so likely < 128K context window) into the chat to get better answers. Uploading files is hopeless in the web interface.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #429

Tangent. Does any body have good tips for working in a company that is totally bought in on all this stuff, such that the codebase is a complete wreck? I am in a very small team, and I am just a worker, not a manager or anything. It has become increasingly clear that most if not all my coworkers rely on all this stuff so much. Spending hours trying to give benefit of the doubt to huge amounts of inherited code, reali…

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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by syndicatedjelly »

subroutine wrote: post #277

Part of my justification for spending $20 per month on ChatGPT Plus was that I'd have the best access to the latest models and advanced features. I'll probably roll back to the free plan rather than pay $20/mo for mid tier plan access and support.

This is like selling your Honda Civic out of anger because they launched a new NSX

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Post by Sleaker »

dgacmu wrote: post #504
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #444

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Yeah but they "detect" the characteristic AI style: The limited way it structures sentences, the way it lays out arguments, the way it tends to close with an "in conclusion" paragraph, certain word choices, etc. o1-Pro doesn't do any of that. It writes like a human. Damnit. It's too good. It just saved me ~6 hours in drafting a complicated and bespoke legal document. Before you ask: I know what I'm doing, and it did…

ahh, but: > I know what I'm doing Is exactly the key element in being able to use spicy autocomplete. If you don't know what you're doing, it's going to bite you and you won't know it until it's too late. "GPT messed up the contract" is not an argument I would envy anyone presenting in court or to their employer. :) (I say this mostly from using tools like copilot)

Well... Lawyers already got slapped for filings straight from ai output. So not new territory as far as that's concerned :)

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by brookst »

talldayo wrote: post #208
brookst wrote: post #190

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I’d like to see more evidence that it’s a scam than just your feelings. Any data there? I certainly don’t see why mere prediction can’t validate reasoning. Sure, it can’t do it perfectly all the time, but neither can people.

> I’d like to see more evidence that it’s a scam Have you been introduced to their CEO yet? 5 minutes of Worldcoin research should assuage your curiosity.

So you’ve got feelings and guilt by association. And I’ve got a year of using ChatGPT, which has saved tens to hundreds of hours of tedious work.

Forgive me for not finding your argument persuasive.

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