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What does this button do? – My new car has a mysterious and undocumented switch

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Re: What does this button do? – My new car has a mysterious and undocumented switch

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

Intralexical wrote: post #414
_huayra_ wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI for anyone who owns a Subaru: you can opt out of 3rd-party data sharing here https://www.subaru.com/support/consumer-privacy.html If you don't live in one of the states mentioned in the first paragraph, expect this to take a very long time. For me it took 6 months.

Uh… Can you also opt out of first party data sharing? Or is Subaru still going to be spying you while pinky swearing to at least not share it with anybody else?

The only way to opt out of that is with a power drill.

Re: What does this button do? – My new car has a mysterious and undocumented switch

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

RobRivera wrote: post #516
Forgeties79 wrote: post #515

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Are you surprised I responded flippantly to a personal dig? We’re well beyond the point of productivity. Have a good one.

So you admit you were flippant, and assert my observation was a personal dig. Reveals much about your ability to handle discourse

BolexNOLA did a fine job trying to focus the conversation on published facts and the sensible position that the onus is on the automakers to prove their trustworthiness after they betrayed public trust. This was not something you or potato3732842 really engaged with beyond an uncritical dismissal. If you want discourse, you have to bring something to the table.

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Post by pnw »

tempest_ wrote: post #328
whs wrote: post #238

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In that link "The company requires car owners to grant permission on the cars’ touchscreens before Tesla collects their vehicles’ data"

What format does that take? Is it the "Click Ok to agree to everything so you can use the app" type crap? I am reticent to give Tesla the benefit of the doubt.

No, it's not. You can see the screen here. It's clearly optional. If anything, people complain they see it too often.

But don't click yes if you spend time nude in your garage like the people in the original claim.

https://www.teslaownersonline.com/threads/data-sharing-scree...

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Post by afh1 »

callalex wrote: post #396
aagha wrote: post #315

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It's crazy the EU passed this and collecting someone's IP address or assigning them a random UUID is considered a GDPR violation.

Quite the opposite! Since people can have faith that they are protected by GDPR, they can have machines that actually work to help them, instead of hobbling them out of fear of being exploited.

Information can be sold or leaked, abused by a single employee for personal reasons, or used en mass for surveillance, regardless of what's written in the paper. Faith is actually an accurate term for this level of trust in government. I for one reject the notion of being tacked at all times by law.

Re: What does this button do? – My new car has a mysterious and undocumented switch

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Post by callalex »

afh1 wrote: post #524
callalex wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the opposite! Since people can have faith that they are protected by GDPR, they can have machines that actually work to help them, instead of hobbling them out of fear of being exploited.

Information can be sold or leaked, abused by a single employee for personal reasons, or used en mass for surveillance, regardless of what's written in the paper. Faith is actually an accurate term for this level of trust in government. I for one reject the notion of being tacked at all times by law.

Do you have a phone?
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