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Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by nicolas_t »

jader201 wrote: post #483
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #371

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Yep. I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. I was more or less upgrading yearly in the past because the speed increases (both in the G4 and then Intel generations) were so significant. This M1 has exceeded my expectations in every category, it's faster quieter and cooler than any laptop i've ever owned. I've had this laptop since release in 2020 and I have nearly 0 complaints with it. I wouldn't upgr…

> I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. My 2015 MBP would like to have a word. It’s the only laptop purchase I’ve made. I still use it to this day, though not as regularly. I will likely get a new MBP one of these days.

Ah my 2013 mbp died in 2019. It was the gpu. No way to repair it for cheap enough so I had to replace it with a 2019 mbp which was the computer I kept the shortest (I hated the keyboard).

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by hammock »

xyst wrote: post #481

> … advanced 12MP … camera wot, m8? Only Apple will call a 12 megapixel camera “advanced”. Same MPs as an old iPhone 6 rear camera. Aside from that, it’s pretty much the same as the prior generation. Same thickness in form factor. Slightly better SoC. Only worth it if you jump from M1 (or any Intel mbp) to M4. Would be godlike if Apple could make the chip swappable. Buy a Mac Studio M2 Ultra Max Plus. Then just upgra…

The Thinkpad webcam is only 5MP. Many other PCs have much less.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by trogdor »

wpm wrote: post #468
trogdor wrote: post #348

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I wonder if one of the obstacles is the amount of data that would likely be used. Most cellular carriers offer unlimited on-device data plans, but they cap data for tethering. Integrating an LTE modem into a laptop essentially requires a mobile data plan with unlimited tethering - which, AFAIK, doesn’t exist at the moment. I’m not sure why.

Integrating an LTE modem into an iPad requires a mobile data plan, and thats about it. It's not "tethered" if its built into the device. I've always heard that patent disputes were at the root of the lack of a modem option. Apple had a prototype MacBook Pro back in the early Intel days IIRC but it was never released. Maybe if Apple ever gets their in-house modems working, we'll see them on all of the product lines, b…

> It's not "tethered" if its built into the device.

I understand that. My point is that I think an LTE modem in a laptop might reasonably use far more data than an LTE modem in a phone or tablet. Most people who download and/or upload very large files do so on their computer rather than their mobile devices.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by matrix87 »

monocasa wrote: post #495
davidczech wrote: post #478

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I think it’s usually filmed on weekends

You would just think that with a brand so intrinsically wrapped around the concept of technology working for and with the people that use it, you'd want to show the people who made it if you're going to show the apple campus at all. It kind of just comes off as one of those YouTube liminal space horror videos when it's that empty.

> the concept of technology working for and with the people that use it

> liminal space horror

reminds me of that god awful crush commercial

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by JohnBooty »

jcmontx wrote: post #20

> "up to 1.8x faster when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro" I insist my 2020 Macbook M1 was the best purchase I ever made

Amen. I got a crazy deal on a brand new 2020 M1 Max MBP with 64GB/2TB in 2023.

This is the best machine I have ever owned. It is so completely perfect in every way. I can't imagine replacing it for many many years.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by PostLogical »

0wis wrote: post #498
jader201 wrote: post #483

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> I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. My 2015 MBP would like to have a word. It’s the only laptop purchase I’ve made. I still use it to this day, though not as regularly. I will likely get a new MBP one of these days.

If we are going this way… I still use a mid-2012 MBP as my main workstation. Last one with upgrade capabilities, now it has two fast SSDs and maximum Ram. I changed the battery once. Only shame is that it doesn’t get major MacOS upgrades anymore. Still good enough to browse the web, do office productivity and web development. 12 years of good use, I am not sure I can get so much value anywhere now

Same setup here except I use Opencore Legacy Patcher so I’m on the latest OS as well. Works amazingly well.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by Jaxan »

nicolas_t wrote: post #521
jader201 wrote: post #483

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> I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. My 2015 MBP would like to have a word. It’s the only laptop purchase I’ve made. I still use it to this day, though not as regularly. I will likely get a new MBP one of these days.

Ah my 2013 mbp died in 2019. It was the gpu. No way to repair it for cheap enough so I had to replace it with a 2019 mbp which was the computer I kept the shortest (I hated the keyboard).

My 2011 MBP died in 2023, it was used daily but very slow at the end of its life.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by markus_zhang »

JohnBooty wrote: post #526
jcmontx wrote: post #20

> "up to 1.8x faster when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro" I insist my 2020 Macbook M1 was the best purchase I ever made

Amen. I got a crazy deal on a brand new 2020 M1 Max MBP with 64GB/2TB in 2023. This is the best machine I have ever owned. It is so completely perfect in every way. I can't imagine replacing it for many many years.

Congratulations, just curious what is the deal?

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by JohnBooty »

jader201 wrote: post #483
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. I was more or less upgrading yearly in the past because the speed increases (both in the G4 and then Intel generations) were so significant. This M1 has exceeded my expectations in every category, it's faster quieter and cooler than any laptop i've ever owned. I've had this laptop since release in 2020 and I have nearly 0 complaints with it. I wouldn't upgr…

> I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. My 2015 MBP would like to have a word. It’s the only laptop purchase I’ve made. I still use it to this day, though not as regularly. I will likely get a new MBP one of these days.

My 2015 MBP would probably have been totally fine for development... except for the Docker-based workflows that everybody uses now.

Rebuilding a bunch of Docker images on an older intel mac is quite the slow experience if you're doing it multiple times per day.

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