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Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fennecbutt »

BillyTheKing wrote: post #381
nox101 wrote: post #379

I've heard through the grapevine that Apple is having trouble making Apple Intelligence not give lots of bad or wrong advice/suggestions/etc... (same as most LLMs). I would be amazing to me (as in "get out the popcorn") if Apple decided not to ship Apple Intelligence and came out with a public statement saying LLM tech is not ready or is a dead end and effectively implying that other LLM companies are selling snake o…

People just have less tolerance for errors using apple products.. that doesn't mean that other LLM companies sell snake-oil, people just have a higher error tolerance for them and are learning to work 'with' those LLMs

No they don't. They have more tolerance for errors imo, because they've been told "it just works" so many times that when it doesn't work, their brain has to skip it. So many iPhone friends point at some problem my Sammy might have like it's broken all the time yet completely ignore when their own phones have issues, or glaring design flaws like the lack of a consistent back button, a major os feature in 2024 being "you can have a custom lock screen and home screen wallpaper" lmao

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fennecbutt »

freedomben wrote: post #469
gregoriol wrote: post #463

What is going on with Apple's ratio on the iPads: all the original models had 4/3, then iPad Air 4 and iPad 10 got ~4.3/3, then iPad mini 6 got ~4.5/3 What could be Apple's rationale on this? why so many slightly different formats? and why those, they add black bars or crop to most normal content... pictures from the camera for example are still in 4/3 so they are cropped in Photos, videos are in 16/9 so they still h…

This is especially amusing to me because back in the day when iOS developers would shit on Android, they almost all said (verbatim) "fragmentation" as the reason why iOS was great and Android sucked. "On Android you have a bunch of different screen sizes to deal with so it's hard to make a nice app. On iOS it's all standardized and simple. That is the Apple Way and the whole ecosystem is consistent like that which ma…

In a way having to dev for fragmented is annoying but valuable, as once you've done it it should handle everything. I imagine so many iOS apps are like a glass animal; fragile beasts.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mlajtos »

kazinator wrote: post #515
mlajtos wrote: post #511

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But better calculator does revolutionize math education. Math is about problem-solving – if I can use tool that speeds up the boring parts (those that can be automated), I can focus on what really matters. For example, doing logarithms with slide rule is slow. Computing logarithms with digital calculator is easy. Do person with slide rule has any advantage over person with calculator? What about reverse? Wolfram Math…

Calculating logs with a slide rule is fast! It's pure table lookup: slide the cursor to the input value, and read off the log from another row.

Computers are faster at lookup tables than humans.

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Post by kazinator »

mlajtos wrote: post #523
kazinator wrote: post #515

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calculating logs with a slide rule is fast! It's pure table lookup: slide the cursor to the input value, and read off the log from another row.

Computers are faster at lookup tables than humans.

I feel some nuance is needed here.

Handheld calculators that calculate logs require a human to hit buttons; that's the rate limiting process.

Both the calculator and slide rule are fast at the actual table lookup. The hairline mark on the slide rule's cursor performs a fast lookup; it instantaneously links the input value with its logarithm.

It's the button punching on the calculator, or sliding of the cursor of the slide rule, and the reading of the result, that are slow.

The limitations of slide rules compared to calculators are:

- precision: you can't get anywhere near a six figure logarithm or product. In engineering, you usually don't need this; but you do need intuition for being in the right ballpark. Forget slide rules for accounting/finance though.

- variety of functions: there are only so many tables you can fit on a slide rule before it becomes unwieldy.

- lack of registers for recalling prior values, such as frequently reused intermediaries. Even the cheapest, simples calculators usually have an accumulator register you can add to or subtract from, recall and clear. The user can have several slide rules to have multiple cursors left at different values.

The actual speed of calculating what is available, with the available precision, is not bad. The game-changing speed difference comes with programmable calculators.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mlajtos »

kazinator wrote: post #524
mlajtos wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computers are faster at lookup tables than humans.

I feel some nuance is needed here. Handheld calculators that calculate logs require a human to hit buttons; that's the rate limiting process. Both the calculator and slide rule are fast at the actual table lookup. The hairline mark on the slide rule's cursor performs a fast lookup; it instantaneously links the input value with its logarithm. It's the button punching on the calculator, or sliding of the cursor of the…

With Math Notes, you just write with your hand `log₂(1024)=` and you'll see the result. No slide rules, no buttons, just magic paper that does math. In this case, the logarithm is the tool I want – not slide rule, not handheld calculator. The less UI, the better UI.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by kazinator »

mlajtos wrote: post #525
kazinator wrote: post #524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel some nuance is needed here. Handheld calculators that calculate logs require a human to hit buttons; that's the rate limiting process. Both the calculator and slide rule are fast at the actual table lookup. The hairline mark on the slide rule's cursor performs a fast lookup; it instantaneously links the input value with its logarithm. It's the button punching on the calculator, or sliding of the cursor of the…

With Math Notes, you just write with your hand `log₂(1024)=` and you'll see the result. No slide rules, no buttons, just magic paper that does math. In this case, the logarithm is the tool I want – not slide rule, not handheld calculator. The less UI, the better UI.

Writing that by hand is a lot of strokes compared to punching buttons or moving a slider.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mlajtos »

kazinator wrote: post #526
mlajtos wrote: post #525

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Math Notes, you just write with your hand `log₂(1024)=` and you'll see the result. No slide rules, no buttons, just magic paper that does math. In this case, the logarithm is the tool I want – not slide rule, not handheld calculator. The less UI, the better UI.

Writing that by hand is a lot of strokes compared to punching buttons or moving a slider.

Usually, people use slide rule and handheld calculator in combination with paper and pencil. Combo of writing tool & computing tool. Merging them is a good idea.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mbirth »

fennecbutt wrote: post #520
mbirth wrote: post #489

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Now turn off the Internet connection and try talking to ChatGPT again...

Funnily enough, your car doesn't float. So don't try using it as a boat.

The point is: Apple Intelligence works on your device. Nothing is sent to some remote server. That's also why Siri appears to be dumb compared to Google's, Samsung's and other assistants that work via a huge cloud where all your requests are sent to.
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