For a second there I mis-read that as Canva, and thought what the hell?
Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#522Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know a similar non-coding founder who was using LLMs to create a full fledged TypeScript based SaaS product and regularly comes to me with high level architecture questions, but also doesn't know or care to figure out what HTTP methods are, variable names are a mishmash of whatever case the LLM decided to generate that day, and there are no tests whatsoever. It's held together by sheer force of manual QA. ...but. I…
This my technique- test the output, make sure it works (in the sense of outputs) the way I want. Test the input edge cases, move on. Occasionally when I can't get it to do what I want the llm suggests things like logging of output between functions etc- in which case they get added, but at the end I ask it to take out all the logging and make the code more concise. And sometimes it breaks in ways I can't fix - so rol…
Thanks for sharing your story! Reminds me a bit of Prometheus, stealing fire from the gods and giving it to humanity.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#523The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".
I am actually building something along these lines, IntelliJ native rather than a second class VS Code follow along. Is this something you (or your company) would pay for? Say $50/year for the plugin and you bring your own API keys?
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#524The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".
they're out there; https://github.com/s-kostyaev/ellama/blob/main/ellama.el for example.
Anyone aware of one supporting suggestions? I.e. the possibility to accept/decline LLM-suggested changes point by point?
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#525Earlier quoted context omitted.
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…
Mechanical Turks will be the first to go. More seriously, the output quality of LLMs for code is pretty inconsistent. I think there's an analogy to be made with literature. For instance, a short story generated by an LLM can't really hold a candle to the work of a human author. LLM-generated code can be a good starting point for avoiding tedious aspects of software development, like boilerplate or repetitive tasks. W…
Human studies participants have a safer job than firemen. The trouble is that it is already woefully underpaid, and unsettled industries will increase supply.
There are crucial quality issues with Mechanical Turk, though, and when these really start damaging AI in obvious ways, the system (and the compensation, vetting procedures and oversight) seems likely to change.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#526Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that tacking on to an existing product, while the ideal approach, limits just how creative you can get. I believe this is one of the reasons Cursor had to fork VSCode. Simply being an extension limited the features they could build.
I completely get this and I don’t have a good answer to the issue. I almost wish I liked VSCode since almost all AI editors are forks of that (not sure what the extension compatibility story is), but prefer IDEA.
> (not sure what the extension compatibility story is)
So far I've had all the vscode extensions just work in cursor (including devcontainers, docker, etc.) I hope it continues like this, as breaking extensions is something that would take away from the usefulness of cursor.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#527The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".
I am actually building something along these lines, IntelliJ native rather than a second class VS Code follow along. Is this something you (or your company) would pay for? Say $50/year for the plugin and you bring your own API keys?
I would.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#528Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…
Maintenance and long-term development will still require grounding to reality. A super-CEO might build the app themself, but keeping it running 5, 10, 20 years is a completely different deal. I imagine developers will eventually start to act more like librarians, knowing their system very well but not necessarily in charge of making new content.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#529Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…
No one has a job when AGI "takes over"? Weird take.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#530Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that tacking on to an existing product, while the ideal approach, limits just how creative you can get. I believe this is one of the reasons Cursor had to fork VSCode. Simply being an extension limited the features they could build.
I completely get this and I don’t have a good answer to the issue. I almost wish I liked VSCode since almost all AI editors are forks of that (not sure what the extension compatibility story is), but prefer IDEA.
I am also using intelliJ, but have started tinkering with Cursor
My hunch says that IDEA should be worried a lot. If I am on the edge evaluating other tools because of AI assisted programming, lot of others would be doing that too