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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

If they get the hardware right, apps should surely fill in with better use cases over time. The Verge demoed a better scenario where orion picked up on food ingredients in field of view and displayed a smoothie recipe using them.

[1] https://youtu.be/mpKKcqWnTus?t=236

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#523

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

I think the preferred term is contentpreneur now, not influencer.

For some reason I read that as "con-trepreneur" and thought "yeah that fits much better" until I re-read your comnment.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#524

I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

I don’t think ad placement for children should be the primary concern. Unless I’m misunderstanding the current state of the technology, it’s possible today with a little effort to put my biometrics in a feedback loop with (say) GPT-4o, and use those measurements to rapidly produce and refine an increasingly horrifying series of images, personalized to my lizard brain reactions. That’s gross, but the same technique co…

But to what end, if not to sell influence over the user to someone who would manipulate them?

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#525

It would be cool to develop apps for. Hopefully they won't try to create a walled garden around writing software for these.

I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't. It's gonna be the battle of the walled gardens for a while before something open emerges.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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post #522

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

If they get the hardware right, apps should surely fill in with better use cases over time. The Verge demoed a better scenario where orion picked up on food ingredients in field of view and displayed a smoothie recipe using them. [1] https://youtu.be/mpKKcqWnTus?t=236

Do they actually provide applications the ability to access raw camera data? They don't allow that on the Occulus.

They can only rely on 3p devs if they allow access to the hardware.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Further evidence to the truth of this: The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. –Jeff Hammerbacher Oh lament! for what, not just the future, but the present, could have been. Edited to add: But! Even as I have just written that and stand by it, I just don't know if humanity could have done it any other way. One must sell their soul to 'the green', even just a little, to have th…

VHS, the early internet, video compression, and other advances were driven by porn. Now it seems like ads are driving everything. (Sure, including ads on porn, but I highly doubt porn dominates the ad market overall.) It seems like the widespread adoption that drives and is driven by technological progress always comes down to catering to some base urge. I guess if you zoom out, everything is driven by base urges, ju…

Porn is at least enjoyable

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#528

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It's so sad they felt okay with unveiling these with the horrible aesthetics and no guarantees anywhere in plain sight on privacy.

The press release says "unmistakably a pair of glasses". The fact that you're complaining about the aesthetics and not wether or not they're glasses is a testament to the generational leap they've made here. Apple's VR goggles are glasses with "rendered" external pass through. These actually fit the traditional definition of glasses. And yeah like in the future, these will shrink in size. Probably by half in five yea…

> The press release says "unmistakably a pair of glasses".

They look like what army personnel used to call “birth control glasses”. Only extra thick for added protection.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Further evidence to the truth of this: The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. –Jeff Hammerbacher Oh lament! for what, not just the future, but the present, could have been. Edited to add: But! Even as I have just written that and stand by it, I just don't know if humanity could have done it any other way. One must sell their soul to 'the green', even just a little, to have th…

If they were the “brightest minds” and they applied their abilities towards advertisement, then they were not the brightest minds.

If it got them financial stability for themselves and family, then it seems like it worked.
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