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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by clhodapp »

cube2222 wrote: post #154
msoad wrote: post #58

They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…

I think the live demo that happened on the livestream is best to get a feel for this model[0]. I don't really care whether it's stronger than gpt-4-turbo or not. The direct real-time video and audio capabilities are absolutely magical and stunning . The responses in voice mode are now instantaneous, you can interrupt the model, you can talk to it while showing it a video, and it understands (and uses) intonation and…

Call me overly paranoid/skeptical, but I'm not convinced that this isn't a human reading (and embellishing) a script. The "AI" responses in the script may well have actually been generated by their LLM, providing a defense against it being fully fake, but I'm just not buying some of these "AI" voices.

We'll have to see when end users actually get access to the voice features "in the coming weeks".

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Post by kulor »

The biggest wow factor was the effect of reducing latency followed in a close second by the friendly human personality. There's an uncanny valley barrier but this feels like a short-term teething problem.

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Post by partiallypro »

jimkleiber wrote: post #488
erickhill wrote: post #413

I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

Or Apple is rarely if ever the first mover on a new tech and just waits to refine the user experience for people? Maybe Apple is not that close and Siri will be really far behind for a while. I just wouldn't count them out yet.

From the time Apple bought Siri, it hasn't even delivered on the promises of the company it bought as of yet. It's been such a lackluster product. I wouldn't count them out, but it doesn't even feel like they are in.

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Post by kristofferR »

atgctg wrote: post #19

Tiktoken added support for GPT-4o: https://github.com/openai/tiktoken/commit/9d01e5670ff50eb74c... It has an increased vocab size of 200k.

How are they able to use such a brand name, Tiktoken? Is it because TikTok is Chinese? Tiktoken, it's almost like if Apple released the Facebooken library for something entirely unrelated to Facebook.

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

jameshart wrote: post #250
Negitivefrags wrote: post #150

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

While it is probably pretty normal for California, the insincere flattery and patronizing eagerness are definitely grating But then you have to stack that up against the fact that we are examining a technology and nitpicking over its tone of voice .

I’m born and raised in California and I think I’m a pretty “California” person (for better and worse).

It feels exhausting watching these demos and I’m not excited at all to try it. I really don’t feel the need for an AI assistant or chatbot to pretend to be human like this. It just feels like it’s taking longer to get the information I want.

You know in the TV series “Westworld” they have this mode, called “analysis”, where they can tell the robots to “turn off your emotional affect”.

I’d really like to see this one have that option. Hopefully it will comply if you tell it, but considering how strong some of the RLHF has been in the past I’m not confident in that.

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Post by AI_beffr »

mindcandy wrote: post #360

Ohhhhhhhh, boy... Listening to all that emotional vocal inflection and feedback... There are going to be at least 10 million lonely guys with new AI girlfriends. "She's not real. But, she interested in everything I say and excited about everything I care about" is enough of a sales pitch for a lot of people.

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Post by ehsankia »

mindcandy wrote: post #360

Ohhhhhhhh, boy... Listening to all that emotional vocal inflection and feedback... There are going to be at least 10 million lonely guys with new AI girlfriends. "She's not real. But, she interested in everything I say and excited about everything I care about" is enough of a sales pitch for a lot of people.

I'm not sure how, but there's this girl on TikTok who has been using something very similar for a few months: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/dantheai

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Post by AI_beffr »

i absolutely hate this. we are going to destroy society with this technology. we cant continue to enjoy the benefits of human society if humans are replaced by machines. i hate seeing these disgusting people smugly parade this technology. it makes me so angry that they are destroying human society and all i can do is sit here and watch.
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