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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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> So there’s no kind of existential danger to Quest here, but it remains to be seen if the hardware licensees can bring anything relevant to the table either. Why would I, as a potential hardware maker, wish to compete in a market where the existing main producer is a mega wealthy entity that is already dumping product below cost and is capable of doing so indefinitely?

The low end of the market is taken - but (from an outsider perspective) the high end appears free. The people who want to buy a Honda aren't the same people who want to buy an Acura, even though it's (essentially) the same parts. Let's say that, tomorrow, Gucci or Dolce and Gabanna (or however you spell that) want to make a VR headset (why? who knows?). They don't have the tech acumen to compete with Facebook on expe…

Yes, but also there are currently so few components to pick from. SoC is definitely some kind of variation of Snapdragon XR2 unless you're Apple.

Can't go into high-end because for a device to make sense either an existing ecosystem around it or high confidence in one appearing. If you tell me that I can buy a 3k dollar vr headset that can run current quest library, I would pretend you're joking.

Mid-end is where we're at right now has/had very small margins because despite it being mid-end - you still have to use high-end components due to lack of options.

I can see someone like Porsche Design making a "high-end" headset (in terms of price, components would be the same). The only option for low-end is to use components previously used in mid-end that would need to compete with used previous gens since they would be nearly identical on the hardware level.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Very strange how many people are here to dunk on Zuck. He's opening up an OS. THAT'S AWESOME! We should celebrate that in principle, no matter how we feel about him or VR in general.

Oculus still requires a Facebook login; don't you see the conflict?

you really should be factually correct when dunking on something

It hasn't been called Oculus for ages and it doesn't require a Facebook login. Meta accounts are stand alone and completely different, you can create as many as you want without giving your identity, just an email address, you don't need to link it to anything.

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I don't care what these people do, I'll never use one of their products unless it is to literally save someone's life.

what a sad hill to die on

No one is dead on a hill.

If anything, not using VR makes you much more "alive".

A real misapplication of this metaphor.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Dude they already have a new grift, AI, why are they still pouring money in this failed project? Zuckerberg is trying so hard to not be Elon 2.0

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #523

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what a sad hill to die on

No one is dead on a hill. If anything, not using VR makes you much more "alive". A real misapplication of this metaphor.

once again, I feel very sorry for people who haven't enriched their lives with VR experiences and skills building. No different than people who poo-pooed computers and internet

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Meta is smartly capturing the MR developer market like they captured the web developer market with React. In terms of Vision vs Quest - I wonder if there will be a "React Native" parallel that allows developers to write React for both Vision and Quest apps. A lot of the developer market comes down to languages: Python for AI/ML, Obj-C (Swift) for iOS, Java (Kotlin) for Android - but JavaScript always seems to weasle…

There is react native for VisionOS already and the react team has hinted at react native for Quests/VR in the past..

I didn't know, thanks for letting me know! Just found this: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@callstack/react-native-vision...

> This is a full fork of [React Native] with changes needed to support visionOS.

Awesome.

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what a sad hill to die on

I don't think it's a particularly sad hill to die on – Meta has proven themselves to be exploitative, invasive, and downright malicious time and time again.

I feel very sorry for people who feel that way and have their identity tied to hating Facebook/Meta

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post #479

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Why is a laptop not desktop? Aren't GNU/Linux desktop OS? Why is Android a phone OS? I thought it was supposed to be a camera firmware GUI toolkit?

I'm not concerned about trademarks. I'm concerned about what isn't trademarked -- language which instead we are all supposed to adopt and throw around as much as possible. As I said: * reality, AI, cloud, etc.

I get that loosely thrown around buzzwords are annoying, that sentiment I sympathize with, but your examples seem to contain multiple category errors e.g. HUD is a type of AR device, using cloud(noun) is outsourcing(verb) but outsourcing is definitely not appropriate term for cloud tech stacks, and so on.

Digital computer technologies aren't continuously differentiable so made up terms for grouping each distinct tech stacks is unavoidable. AI is linear algebra but grouping up all AI/ML/RL/perceptron into "electronic linear algebra technology" is not helpful.

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Feel sorry that you feel that way. There are many experiences (especially ball games that require hand/eye co-ordination) that has made my game / fitness / skill improve at least 80% with very minimal amount of time I spent (compared to real world training). If you are into Fitness, nothing like training in VR for literally no money (compared to Gym / personal trainer)

Any recommendations of games or apps that helped you most?

personally Cricket and Table Tennis. But, you could also pick Baseball, Golf, and Boxing.

Cricket, TT and Golf have none of the subscription bullshit.

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