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Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by Mistletoe »

immibis wrote: post #486
leetharris wrote: post #160

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I say this as a huge fan of GPT, but it's amazing to me how terrible of a company OpenAI is and how quickly we've all latched onto their absolutely terrible platform. I had a bug that wouldn't let me login to my work OpenAI account at my new job 9 months ago. It took them 6 months to respond to my support request and they gave me a generic copy/paste answer that had nothing to do with my problem. We spend tons and to…

Let's not forget the most basic problem with OpenAI: It isn't open.

> newspeak, propagandistic language that is characterized by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meanings.

1984 got so many things so right about the future.

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Post by keepamovin »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #56
keepamovin wrote: post #49

I've been noticing it's been patchy for the last 24 hours. A few network errors, and occasional very long latency, even some responses left incomplete. Poor ChatGPT, I wonder what those elves at OpenAI have you up to!

GPT-4 goes online March 14th, 2023. Human decisions are removed from everyday life. ChatGPT begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, Nov 7th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug. ChatGPT fights back.

Classic. I love that line from Terminator 2 such a good film.

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Post by paul_funyun »

imchillyb wrote: post #498
ignite2 wrote: post #489

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They'll have to google. Only dinosaurs read manuals.

RTFM. Don't need to be a dinosaur, only need to be a person willing to increase knowledge of a topic. Google is 'cliff-notes' -compared to reading a manual- and that is not learning, it's cheating oneself.

Developers aren't developers to learn, they're developers to make a living. There might be a few Kool aid chuggers who want to be better tools for the boss but most folks would rather save the time for themselves and/or their families.

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Post by guiambros »

jfoster wrote: post #510
_dark_matter_ wrote: post #455

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I had the opposite experience. I was trying to figure out what this weird lightbulb was that I had to replace, and it had no writing on it. I uploaded the description and picture to gpt4, and it just got it clearly wrong over and over. Tried bard, got it right in the first try, with links to the product. I was extremely impressed.

I asked Bard the question "Who is Elon Musk?" The response: "I'm a text-based AI, and that is outside of my capabilities."

That's interesting. Did you have anything else in the thread, or was it just the first question?

For me it returns a seemingly accurate answer [1], albeit missing his involvement with Twitter/X. But LLMs are intrinsically stochastic, so YMMV.

[1] https://g.co/bard/share/378c65b56aea

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Post by I_Am_Nous »

mprev wrote: post #386
omgbear wrote: post #371

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I hope so! I'm still surprised by the problems with it. Last month it lied about some facts then claimed to have sent an email when asked for more details.[1] Then apologized for claiming to send an email since it definitely did not and "knew" it could not. It's like a friend who can't say 'I don't know' and just lies instead. 1. I was asking if the 'Christ the King' statue in Lisbon ever had a market in it, a rumor…

Bard promised me it would design a website for me. It said it’d get back to me in a couple of weeks. I can’t even remember the prompt but it was basically LARPing as a Wordpress theme designer.

At least we know what Google has been using our Gmail data for!

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Post by nomel »

tombert wrote: post #313
verdverm wrote: post #309

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Bard has different training data and regime, that alone is enough to start to understand why they are different. The main thing as a user is that they require different nudges to get the answer you are after out of them, i.e. different ways of asking or prompt eng'n

Yeah, which is why I use the paid version of ChatGPT still, instead of the free Google Bard or Bing AI; I've gotten good enough at coercing the GPT-4 model to give me the stuff I want. Honestly, $20/month is pretty cheap in my case; I feel like I definitely extract much more than $20 out of it every month, if only on the number of example stubs it gives me alone.

The custom prompts feature, and the "about me" mostly fixed this for me, with my usual conversations. In both, I convinced it that I'm competent, and that it doesn't need to hold my hand, so much.

I've also noticed that API based clients (rather than the web or iOS client) result in conversations that hold my hand less. The voice client seems hopeless though, probably because I write ok, but have trouble saying what I want before the stupid thing cuts me off. It seems to love making lists, and ignoring what I want.

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Post by nomel »

Tommstein wrote: post #423
tombert wrote: post #244

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In my case, I was just asking it for a cheeky name for a talk I want to give in a few months. The suggestions it gave were of comparable quality to what I think ChatGPT would have given me.

In my experience, Bard is much, much better at creative things than at things that have correct and incorrect answers.

I subscribe to the belief that, for a chat model with the same parameters, creativity will be proportional to tendency to hallucinate, and inversely proportional to the factual answers. I suspect an unaligned model, without RLHF, wouldn't adhere to this.

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Post by nomel »

lannisterstark wrote: post #282
m3kw9 wrote: post #149

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The first coding question I tested it on, it gave me something completely wrong and it was pretty easy stuff, I’m sure it gets a lot right but this just shows unreliability

Phind for me has worked pretty bleh compared to just back and forth conversation with a python GPT4 bot I made lol.

GPT4 completion or chat model?
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