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Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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“Bach” is a word like any other, and unambiguous in English pronunciation.

> Bach” is a word like any other, and unambiguous in English pronunciation. There is another pronunciation if you want a holiday in New Zealand. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach_(New_Zealand)

Reminds me of the doublewide that served as a motel suite I stayed at in Australia. It was dirt cheap and better than you might think -- very cozy.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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> it's a name of a concrete person which has only one correct pronunciation. This is an insane standard. The [x] at the end of the German word doesn't exist in English; most English speakers wouldn't be able to pronounce it if they wanted to. When the demands you're making are literally impossible, the problem is you.

So just because the "th" sound doesn't exist in many languages, like German, they should pronounce "Heath Ledger" or "Anthony Hopkins" or "The Beatles" incorrectly? That seems to me a way more "insane" standard. By the way, the Scottish are perfectly able to pronounce "Loch Ness", which has the same sound for "ch" as "Bach".

Want to flummox the Japanese tongue? Try a sentence like "Darth Vader is Luke's father". It hits most of the highlights: interdentals, labiodentals, and that weird 'r' sound English has that Japanese sometimes tend to conflate with 'l'. Even a competent Japanese English speaker is likely to render it as "Dāsu Bēdā izu Rūkusu fazā". Depending on the region they may mess up the 'f'; the syllable 'fu' is actually 'hu', but pronounced with very pursed lips in Tokyo Japanese (not so much in Kansai).

Unless they're bilingual from childhood, most people are not able to pronounce sounds outside their milk tongue without difficulty. That you expect English sounds to be perfectly pronounceable by non-English-speakers is probably more reflective of the fact that quality English education is widely available where you live than anything.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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It's odd to hear this. As an Android user I've always felt I'm missing out something really great, judging from the keynotes.

I’ve used Android phones in the past, and Google’s tube person. Siri has IMO clearly gotten worse over time, on both my phone and my HomePods. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is better at this point.

Google assistant is also getting worse over time

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Their swype-style keyboard is an absolute joke—perhaps the most infuriating part of my iphone. I know that it’s easier to criticize than it is to implement, but my god, just a basic markov chain would yield more intelligible results than the shit it comes up with.

For some very odd reason, swipe keyboard technology seems to have peaked around 2014, never to reach those heights again. I remember being amazed by how great swiping was, and after using it recently (it's not really great on gboard or samsung keyboard either, not bad but just meh) I was wondering if it was just rose tinted glass. But nope, I booted up my old nexus 5 with a normal gboard (not even swiftkey!) and it w…

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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Honestly, I find Siri the most powerful popular voice assistant out there. Once you starting using Shortcuts, you can use Siri for literally anything. With just holding the power button, and a couple words, I can start tracking a run, schedule message a friend, record my thoughts, close all my tabs that contain the word "youtube"... And so much more! Shortcuts & Siri is honestly the main reason I switched from Androi…

Agreed, Shortcuts are massively under utilized.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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It's honestly a complete travesty. Strongly considering ditching my iPhone for the upcoming Pixel Fold or whatever it'll be called.

Personally i would higher consider the galaxy fold over the pixel fold. i remember when samsung released their first foldable phone it was a very expensive trainwreck and they are now at a point where i here they are decent i would not for the life of me trust google with a 1st attempt at any hardware implementation. especially with one that will be pretty expensive

Samsung phones sadly intentionally gimp themselves and can't run GrapheneOS

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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The keyboards on the Apple M Macbooks are good, having used one myself... Except there's this feeling that Macbook keyboards fundamentally "work" differently to all other keyboards out there. I'm primarily a Windows wizard, I use my Macbook for specific tasks and it's not my daily driver. I can type on my Macbook mostly fine, but occasionally it misses some of my key inputs. I know the keyboard works , the key in que…

That’s interesting because I use the same keyboard with my Mac and Windows work laptop hooked up to a dock, and Windows + Teams (where I’m doing the majority of my actual typing words not code in a day) constantly has weird artifacts of switching lettering, like it’s kicking off some async process to grab keystrokes right as I open a message then flushes the buffer out of order to the application. It’s really weird a…

I have the same issue with slack and any facebook app frequently -- especially if you type, delete, type quickly. I think there must be some damn crdt within the draft edits feature that causes the final state not to match exactly what would be expected from the input sequence.

It's very annoying because it feels like I'm being gaslit by the device -- the errant results can pop in after some delay .... "was I misreading what I saw had been typed earlier on screen??"

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Maybe it's the emerging neo-Luddite in me, but I'm alarmed at how many people begrudgingly continue to use these tools (accessibility reasons notwithstanding, which is an admittedly major caveat). I have a very low tolerance for error in things like setting timers, playing music, getting weather, calling someone. This is because I can complete these tasks simply, quickly, and with 100% reliability by hand. The margin…

Number of seconds is not a relevant metric for some people. More relevant for me is how much and often I need to switch my physical and cognitive task at hand to briefly use my device. If I'm in a focused mode going back and forth in my house getting things done, it's a huge benefit to just verbalize my thinking in the moment rather than come to an abrupt stop and switch to visuospatial navigation to drill down to th…

But that argument only holds if the voice assistant actually works. The point is that it often doesn’t, requiring repeated attempts that end up taking more focus and time then just manually doing it. There’s no way that doesn’t end up requiring as much if not more cognitive switching.
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