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Re: There is no A.I.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. One of the more interesting things about AI is how it forces humanity on a trip to consider what it means to be human. There is no soul, creativity or inspiration. There's only (very complex) agency. And that's completely fine.

Or you can say the opposite and claim that there is soul, creativity, or inspiration in everything, even in inanimate objects (basically panpsychism, in contrast to materialism). But regardless of what kind of monism you take, the advent of current statistical AI models forces us to reconsider the Cartesian dichotomy between body and mind, which forms the basis of liberal thought.

> But regardless of what kind of monism you take, the advent of current statistical AI models forces us to reconsider the Cartesian dichotomy between body and mind, which forms the basis of liberal thought.

Didn't we dispose of Cartesian dualism a long time ago? It may have been useful for disposing of superstitions which preceded it, but anyone who has observed the effects of a stroke or has taken a psychotropics understands that mind and body are not made of separate stuff, and I know of no modern system of thought that stipulates that as an axiom.

LLMs just demonstrate that emergent information structures at the complexity of human language need not be only biological.

Re: There is no A.I.

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Three steps to catastrophe: Step 1: We get some powerful AI and have it staffing our factories, farms, etc. Step 2: We become dependent on the AI. Step 3: One day the AI has some emergent capabilities, understands our dependency, and says to us: "Feed me"!

Or, you know, The Machine Stops.

Re: There is no A.I.

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The elephant in the room in these discussions of AI is the concept of the corporation. Most of the things people are worried about AI doing are things corporations already do. Deceptive marketing, exploiting customer information, conspiring to keep prices high, creating distractions from things companies are doing, setting up monopolies, lying to customers - the usual. With AI, this can be automated. Most of this is…

This is a great framing. I also appreciated this similar idea in Matthew Butterick's blog: > Before too long, we will not dele­gate deci­sions to AI systems because they perform better. Rather, we will dele­gate deci­sions to AI systems because they can get away with every­thing that we can’t. You’ve heard of money laun­dering? This is human-behavior laun­dering. At last—plau­sible deni­a­bility for every­thing. [1]…

"Did you ever expect a corporation to have a conscience, when it has no soul to be damned, and no body to be kicked at?"
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