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Re: Substack Notes Launched

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This would be much more interesting to me if it was a member of the Fediverse and supported ActivityPub.

How would this be better than Mastodon? (Really asking, I only ever tried Mastodon for a bit.)

Mastodon lacks personalized sorting in its news feed as well as account-to-follow recommendations. A news feed that is strictly organized in chronological order becomes unusable when users follow more than 100 accounts. This can only be solved by having a centralized services like Substack.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

#522
post #77

Looking at Notes, I get why Elon is so mad about it. They totally ripped off the Twitter UI. I follow Ed Zitron's Substack, and he is also a prolific Tweeter. He seems to be using Notes the same way he uses Twitter, for shitposting. I'm not sure that's really in line with the tone of Substack.

Why would you use this twitter clone when the original has way more interesting content?

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#523

I love Substack. But apart from to mess with Twitter I really don’t understand the point of this. https://substack.com/profile/241262-casey-newton/note/c-1446... I’d a good summary. I don’t want to subscribe to hundreds of newsletters to see tweet (sorry, notes). But if you change that setup, it really is a Twitter clone with no upside to writers.

Elon showing the number of impressions a tweet or reply actually got was an eye-opener for me. Probably about 1-2% of "Followers" -- not just mine but most people's. Twitter has been completely worthless anyway for promoting my Substack channel. In their Dashboard, it doesn't even show up in the top five referers.

> Twitter has been completely worthless anyway for promoting my Substack channel. In their Dashboard, it doesn't even show up in the top five referers.

It's always been very difficult to get people to leave Twitter. This is why their ad business is worth so little. Advertisers pay for clicks, and Twitter just doesn't deliver them very well.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

#524
post #58

I love Substack. But apart from to mess with Twitter I really don’t understand the point of this. https://substack.com/profile/241262-casey-newton/note/c-1446... I’d a good summary. I don’t want to subscribe to hundreds of newsletters to see tweet (sorry, notes). But if you change that setup, it really is a Twitter clone with no upside to writers.

They raised a ton of money on a high valuation, spent 25mil to make 1 mil last year and are now scrambling to raise a new crowd sourced round because they don't want to get wiped out in a down round. This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model and I'm guessing they think they have "influencers" on their platform to bring in a decent audience.

> This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model

It's not. Substack is very clear about that. https://on.substack.com/p/notes-faq

"The ultimate goal on Substack is to convert casual readers into paying subscribers. Because the Substack network runs on paid subscriptions, writers are rewarded for respecting the trust and attention of their audiences, not exploiting it like with ad-based social media."

"While Notes may look similar to social media feeds, the key difference is in what you don’t see. The Substack network runs on paid subscriptions, not ads. It’s social media with a heart transplant."

Re: Substack Notes Launched

#525

I love Substack. But apart from to mess with Twitter I really don’t understand the point of this. https://substack.com/profile/241262-casey-newton/note/c-1446... I’d a good summary. I don’t want to subscribe to hundreds of newsletters to see tweet (sorry, notes). But if you change that setup, it really is a Twitter clone with no upside to writers.

Elon showing the number of impressions a tweet or reply actually got was an eye-opener for me. Probably about 1-2% of "Followers" -- not just mine but most people's. Twitter has been completely worthless anyway for promoting my Substack channel. In their Dashboard, it doesn't even show up in the top five referers.

We've had the same experience, Twitter has led to almost no incremental readers. Even our most popular posts don't get much of an audience there.

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#526

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Sounds great but you’ll have to provide some logic because I don’t automatically follow your extremely confident opinion…

People here are praying very hard for Twitter to fail. Nearly any social media post nowadays has 50-100 comments predicting Twitter's failure and ranting about Musk. He is living rent-free in many heads now. Its utterly ludicrous how so many intelligent and rational people are becoming un-hinged whenever Twitter/Musk is mentioned.

Apparently the people that have Musk living rent free in their heads are living rent free in your head.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

#527
Does anyone have a method to discover good writers on Substack? There's so much trash there that I'm tuning out every writer that publishes on Substack, except for a small handful that I already knew about.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

#528
post #395

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That wasn't just any dog, that was doge the now mascot and namesake of the cryptocurrency dogecoin of which Musk has been known to pump with memes.

I should have known there was some shallow meaning behind it.

What's the deep meaning behind any company's logo? Start with Google, then Facebook and move on.

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#529
post #482

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I think you're missing the point. I understand that you value that. There is no question of that. The majority of people however don't value it or actively desire it because no wants to live in a pigsty. There is a reason apps like Truth Social don't take off, and that 4chan never gained the mainstream popularity of other social sites. There have been multiple reddit clones, multiple twitter clones, multiple social m…

Dangerous speech?

Yes, if you go back and take a gander at US history, you'll learn that there is a long history of restricting speech that is likely to cause another person harm.

Is that something you are unaware of?

Re: Substack Notes Launched

#530

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People here are praying very hard for Twitter to fail. Nearly any social media post nowadays has 50-100 comments predicting Twitter's failure and ranting about Musk. He is living rent-free in many heads now. Its utterly ludicrous how so many intelligent and rational people are becoming un-hinged whenever Twitter/Musk is mentioned.

It reminds me of the Trump thing, it seems people really lose all rationality when they are faced with a man who publically doesn't care and does whatever he wants and is successful at it. I wonder if we will one day have a psychological name for this. It must be related to something in the human brain that touches on social repression and decades of instilled moral codes like "Don't say this, nobody will like you" a…

"and is successful at it."

Overpaying, creating a mass exodus, destabilizing the platform, and losing tons of advertisers is "successful?"

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