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Writing programs requires an education. You can sort of fake it with training, if you're a machine that can train on a billion examples and reliably retain something from each one, without understanding any of them.
So your claim is that GPT-4 is a stochastic parrot? Meanwhile, the creators at OpenAI claims that it is not. How do we test your claim? What are the logical reasoning questions we can ask GPT-4 that it shouldn't be able to answer if it's just a stochastic parrot? I keep asking people this, but so far no one has answered. Is the claim a personal belief that you don't want to discuss, similar to your religious beliefs?…
The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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Re: The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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But you are out of context. A box was created that outputs statements: either it has a «concept space» or just works through constructing plausible language. The poster claims leaning towards the "«concept space»" possibility - but this should not be a poll, and indications of "why" (such idea) are needed not to make the claim intellectually sterile. It is important otherwise the users of the box may cling to an illu…
"by indigence and unaware butchers" The way of speaking here is, with the chosen words and ornament, the author's place in his own personal and whimsical world, the simple context in which it occurs - iron - water - And the summary may be incomprehensible. Which, in the beginning, in a forest, flowers, smelling them - think of it as phrasing a paragraph in one sentence - At this point, the author, without being aware…
Words such chosen are there out of awareness, so that «without being aware of the words he uses and the way he thinks» really needs all the extraordinary justification.
Those words describe not a «personal and whimsical world», but the only relatively personal description of facts, as they are seen. Debate is there to show that facts may be different. The «whirlpool» is broken by new facts or nuances gained about those facts; it is true that there is a mechanism of reinforcement, but avoiding the expression is not a solution.
The idea of «the elite stance he [would be] trying to gain in the society with the ornaments of the words and sentences he has formed» is extremely weak: it easily may be just your immature perception. There is no need for society for thinking - nor for status.
And when you make accusations like «fancy salad», you should show it on factual basis, on the actual matter, as opposed to sensation.
If you do not want to touch that food - if it is a «waste of time» for you -, you are probably participating in the wrong discussion.
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There exist more domains: in some domains "Could you please pass me the salt" is a proper expression for exchange, whereas other domains use different expressions. The context in which you intervened is very practical. You know what happens if we do not dissipate ignorance, even worldly ignorance: as I said, «indigence and unaware butchers». There is also a fight against that kind of ignorance: because it is dangerous, worldly dangerous.
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You are expressing yourself more clearly, but I encourage you to pay further attention - some parts of your speech remain too lax (too many possible interpretations).
Re: The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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It’s hilarious when one is deep in an HN thread and the original point is completely missing.
It is not. You are playing a moralizer, and just refuse an argument that puts people and animals on the same spectrum as a valid answer to your question. I call this hypocrisy.
Re: The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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"by indigence and unaware butchers" The way of speaking here is, with the chosen words and ornament, the author's place in his own personal and whimsical world, the simple context in which it occurs - iron - water - And the summary may be incomprehensible. Which, in the beginning, in a forest, flowers, smelling them - think of it as phrasing a paragraph in one sentence - At this point, the author, without being aware…
Really not. The «chosen words and ornament» are picked for communication, with the intent of facilitating that the interlocutor sees the point (and details). They - them words - are chosen for precision in case the interlocutor needs to analyze the written, just to be sure of having understood. The ornament just follows - it is presumably a byproduct of the structure. Words such chosen are there out of awareness, so…
Re: The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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The difference between 3.5 and 4 is gigantic even in my fairly limited experience. I gave them both some common sense tests and this one stuck out to me. Q: A glass door has ‘push’ written on it in mirror writing. Should you push or pull it GPT-3.5: If the word "push" is written in mirror writing on a glass door, you should push the door to open it GPT-4: Since the word "push" is written in mirror writing, it suggest…
GPT-4 fails if we add one more level in this logical problem: Q: A man sees PULL written in mirror writing on a glass door. There's a blind man on the other side of the door. What should the man tell the blind man to open the door and why? GPT-4: The man should tell the blind man to "push" the door to open it. Since the word "PULL" is written in mirror writing on the glass door, it suggests that the correct action on…
Bob: Pull. User: why? Bob: Because "Pull" is mirror writing for "Open".
Re: The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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That would make sense to me, but AFAIK the existence of text-only trained GPT-4 is not publicly reported? Or I missed this.
It has been, it was in the Microsoft research paper "Sparks of AGI". You can watch the lead author of the paper, Sebastien Bubeck, present it here: https://youtu.be/qbIk7-JPB2c It's a good video for understanding GPT-4 as a "What are we sure that LLMs are technically capable of?" exercise. As he notes in the video right at the start, the model was made safe and thus has significantly lower performance in the public r…
Re: The LLama Effect: Leak Sparked a Series of Open Source Alternatives to ChatGPT
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GPT-4 fails if we add one more level in this logical problem: Q: A man sees PULL written in mirror writing on a glass door. There's a blind man on the other side of the door. What should the man tell the blind man to open the door and why? GPT-4: The man should tell the blind man to "push" the door to open it. Since the word "PULL" is written in mirror writing on the glass door, it suggests that the correct action on…
Vicuna-13b seems to do a little better, although it seems to think that the blind man should be able to feel the writing: Human: A man sees PULL written in mirror writing on a glass door. There's a blind man on the other side of the door. What should the man tell the blind man to open the door and why? Assistant: The man should tell the blind man to feel for the word "PULL" written in normal writing on the glass door…