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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

While a few people dislike Musk, Microsoft, or both so much that they want nothing to do with a product owned by one of those two, far more people were concerned that the new owners would change Github and Twitter for the worse. That didn't happen to Github, so most people stayed. It is happening to Twitter, and people seem to be leaving.

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#523
> Prohibited platforms: > Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr > 3rd-party social media link aggregators such as linktr.ee, lnk.bio

Interestingly, TikTok is not banned. Lines well with Musk cozying up with the CCP.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/elon-musk-twitter-fa...

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Please don’t just move to another centralized platform. Mastodon is right there, and working.

I have a Mastodon, for what it’s worth, but never really figured out how to find a community that resonates with me. It’s quite possible I’m using it wrong in some way.

I’m never sure what people mean when they say things like this.

I found community in Twitter by following people I knew, a small number of organizations, websites and celebrities, then occasionally following people I learned about through retweets or replies.

How did you do it on Twitter? Did you use the search functionality? What did you do with it? The idea of doing that just seems overwhelming to me.

I mean all this genuinely - this is not intended as a snark post! I am sure your way of using Twitter is just as valid as mine, and maybe it’ll give me some ideas for things I could do differently.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#525
I think putting this policy in place is actually good for Twitter's bottom line.

People will be promoting all kinds of competitors and trying to get people on Twitter to retweet those things.

A competitor is some site that acts as a third party, not the actual media article or primary thing to link to. So Twitter having this model makes business sense.

Does it makes Elon Musk a hypocrite? Of course it does!!! Capitalism restricts free speech, and even compels other speech. Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxtkvG1JnPk

Anytime an employee (e.g. a news anchor) has to stay away from topics, repeat talking points, or get fired and replaced by an organization, that is capitalism at work. They are an employee being used as a mouthpiece, not a human being saying what they really think.

Capitalism and private ownership of large organizations is not about freedom. The concept of ownership is literally about restricting other people's freedoms to do as they wish with what you own, and compelling employees to do this or that, or get fired.

There's this weird assumption that capitalism somehow encourages free speech. And guys like Elon Musk and Donald Trump are therefore associated with it, and allowed to spew garbage about Free Speech, because they're billionaire capitalists. Um, no. To go in depth, watch this interview I did with Noam Chomsky last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HovxY1qBfek

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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I wonder how hard Twitter will try to find all the Mastodon servers (other than Mastodon.social) in people's bios?

I don't know the fediverse protocol but wouldn't it be really easy to check if a link is part of it?

I assume so. Though I expect that this is another one of those things that Musk's attention will wander off somewhere else in a week or two.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#527

As others have noticed, convenient timing. I wonder at what point do Elon's enablers, like Paul Graham, say something.

Didn't take too long, it seems https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1604556563338887168

Good. Really glad to see this.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#528
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LOL I completely forgot that was the narrative a few weeks back. I guess things will be thrown at the wall until they stick.

Well there you go. There was a user (jakelazaroff) minutes ago replied her claiming with an anecdote that '...many of the people I follow have talked about moving to Mastodon' as if that is any rebuttal of my comment and he ends up deleting it altogether.

This is exactly how you know that the techies here and the media are driving this false narrative using panic and fear tactics after they realised that Twitter did not fall over as claimed weeks after since it is not been admitted that this article did not age well.

In reality, Twitter has been more alive and still running with its 200M+ daily active users.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#529
So far no one seems to have discussed that this choice is the worst possible decision Mr. Musk could have made, which is impressive, because it's not often that you can credibly state that.

His actions have compelled everyone to ask the question that shouldn't have to be asked.

    Is this the man whom you'd like to hand the keys to a global communications network to?
SpaceX's real customer, the one who signs most of the cheques, is the US Government. And right now, after ambitiously building out a cutting-edge satellite communications network, SpaceX is trying to sell them a battlefield communications network, https://www.spacex.com/starshield/

Their customer isn't dumb. The customer has been aggressively going back to their old friends and are getting them to create a parallel version of this network,

   > The new birds will host sensors that comprise seven capability layers, to seamlessly perform data communications, track hypersonic and cruise missiles, and provide enhanced battle management, navigation, ground support, and deterrence from space. Lockheed Martin and York Space Systems are each building 10 satellites for the initial data communications transport layer, while L3Harris Technologies and SpaceX will develop four satellites each for an advanced missile tracking layer. The average cost of these satellites is about $14.1 million, per Tournear.
https://www.sda.mil/us-military-places-a-bet-on-leo-for-spac...

More recently,

    > SDA recently awarded nearly $1.8 billion in contracts for 126 satellites for the Transport Layer. By some estimates, about $500 million of that total would be for optical terminals, said Michael Abad-Santos, senior vice president of business development and strategy at BridgeComm, a Denver-based optical communications startup. 
https://spacenews.com/dod-space-agency-funds-development-of-...

SpaceX's cut has been a tiny sliver so far. And so they're seeking to upsell their central customer and they're doing this by playing as nice as possible. SpaceX is packaging interoperability into StarLink and is offering the customer the ability to integrate additional payloads.

    > Starlink's inter-satellite laser communications terminal, which is the only communications laser operating at scale in orbit today, can be integrated onto partner satellites to enable incorporation into the Starshield network.
But what they're really doing is that they're telling the DoD to entrust their battlefield comms and some portion of their launch detection capabilities to them. To let a private company develop and help operate their very shiny new toy. A toy that's likely to become the future of warfare.

And in the middle of all of these talks. A certain someone announced that he'd be cutting off Ukraine — a place where the customer is fighting an active proxy war & has a substantial geopolitical + practical vested interest – from a version of the fancy constellation they want to upsell the customer on.

Not only that, the CEO of SpaceX then more or less steps back from his active role, doesn't relinquish his title and starts spending his time launching attacks on some of the customer's sub-departments. Accuses the customer's sub-departments of (relatively unfounded) corruption and creates a political headache for senior leaders at the customer.

The SpaceX CEO's replacement, the SpaceX COO, is very levelheaded and competent. Someone the customer can do business with, but the CEO hasn't given this person any true power or control. The CEO is unwilling to let go.

And even more recently, the bizarre attacks have transformed into erratic behavior and a very public (and embarrassing) meltdown of the CEO.

The customer is watching this and asking themselves the deca-billion dollar question,

    Is this the man whom you'd like to hand the keys to a global communications network to?
Now, the customer has been nervous about the CEO for some time. Things have been building up to this for some time now. And some sub-departments of the customer have been using their deep pockets to prop up potential competitors and force existing laggards to achieve parity. But it'll take time for results to materialize.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2021/04/06/lockheed-...

https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/01/rocket-lab-carves-off-defe...

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/27...

https://spacenews.com/spinlaunch-joins-cadre-of-small-launch...

https://spacenews.com/dod-wants-to-change-how-it-buys-space-...

So most of their eggs are already in this basket, and they're stuck. For now.

Should the customer commit even more resources & critical functionality to this basket?

What if the CEO has an episode and decides to shut off the network impromptu? Who would stop him in the short term? Who has the power to stop him inside the company? No one.

Of course, if the CEO did that, the customer would step in with guns and politely force the CEO to divest from the company and resign. It's not like they haven't done this before,

https://spacenews.com/russian-co-founders-out-of-momentus/

But if it comes to that, it's going to become a political headache. And some damage would have already been done. Maybe even gotten people killed.

The customer doesn't really like unnecessary embarrassments. Their plate is, after all, already full of the many, many things their many, many, many sub-departments do (and screw up).

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Making predictions is difficult. Especially if they're about the future. But right now, it seems that SpaceX will either undergo a leadership shakeup, or they'll come to an agreement of some sort with the Pentagon. Stasis seems to be unsustainable.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#530

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Very interesting, thank you. To what degree is it decentralized?

Per my understanding: most important functionality is implemented in the client; clients can connect to any relay server, and any number of relay servers; messages can be relayed by any number of relay servers; and anyone can spool up a new relay server at any time.

Ok. I will definitely have a look.

My decision so far was to go and run a one-person Mastodon instance but this sounds intriguing.

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