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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Alright, well, now that that's done - let's go find all those people in the past threads who were saying things like SBF will never be arrested.

Arrested is great progress. Now lets see him convicted and sentenced, and ideally not allowed to suicide his way out of the process.

I wouldn't call suicide a winning move.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#522
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Hm... does that mean she gets away scot-free? Not sure that's fair, she seems very complicit.

93% of prisoners are men[1], so it's pretty common that women do not face justice. [1] https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gende...

Justice is what happens when people are held accountable for the wrong things they've done.

Nothing about justice requires that punishment be meted out in strict accordance with the demographic breakdown of a population except insofar as wrong things are done in strict accordance with the same demographic categories.

Maybe you're assuming that to be the case, but I don't think you'll find any evidence to support such a claim.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#523
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It's clear Caroline Ellison has turned against him. Stephanie Avakian, former SEC enforcement chief, is representing her in NY. I'm guessing they wouldn't have been able to file charges this quickly without Caroline becoming a cooperating witness.

Can you explain what makes this so clear?

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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Just because a country doesn't have an extradition treaty doesn't mean it won't extradite on a case by case basis. The vast majority of countries are signed on to at least one international treaty that covers extradition like the United Nations Convention against Corruption. People like Ghosan are safe because they flee to countries that won't extradite their own nationals as a matter of long standing policy. They ha…

IMHO what would determine whether or not he was extradited from one of those countries is not various treaties but how much cash he brought with him.

I think this is the best argument that SBF didn't intend to commit fraud, so much as fraudulent activity with the expectation that it'd all work out somehow. If the exchange contagion was quelled (partially by his actions backstopping other liquidity crises), and cryptocurrencies went generally up, and FTT was strengthened by FTX's appearance of strength, then all of these problems would have gone away.

If he had simple fraudulent intent (i.e. personal enrichment at the expense of customers), he would have had a plan. One that included adequate cash socked away in appropriate locations. Something much more well-thought out than "a US-friendly island 2 hrs by plane from SDNY".

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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post #145

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Hm... does that mean she gets away scot-free? Not sure that's fair, she seems very complicit.

93% of prisoners are men[1], so it's pretty common that women do not face justice. [1] https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gende...

1) What's the have to do with the conversation?

2) That's not how logic works. Correlation does not equate to causation.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#526
post #104

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It's clear Caroline Ellison has turned against him. Stephanie Avakian, former SEC enforcement chief, is representing her in NY. I'm guessing they wouldn't have been able to file charges this quickly without Caroline becoming a cooperating witness.

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What does her polyamory have to do with anything other than a thinly veiled attempt to slut shame a woman?

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Holmes got 11 years in Federal prison for her first offense for financial crimes.. that is a long sentence. SBF obviously won’t get life behind bars, nor should he.

Yes 11 years is a long time to be imprisoned however I think it was in the low end of what she could have gotten which is why people say she didn't get a long sentence.

It wasn’t at the low end whatsoever, it was perfectly in line with the sentencing guidelines for the charges she was accused and convicted of.

Federal sentencing is actually really easy to predict. You can almost always ignore the proclamations of “could be 130 years” since those are often only for serious repeat offenders and tons of sentencing enhancements.

Skip down to the process part of this post:

https://prisonprofessors.com/calculating-holmes-prison-sente...

Once we know what SBF is going to be charged with, we’ll know what his eventual sentencing range will be if he’s convicted. For all of the conspiracy theorizing and dramatics, it boils down to a very boring sentencing chart.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Yes, I think the government absolutely will try and it's quite probable they will succeed. But why not offer human beings the _chance_ to flee tyranny with their livelihood? Consider jews fleeing Nazi Germany. Should they have been allowed to escape with their assets? Would the world be a better place had they been able to?

How about we create better systems for refugees to gain access to safety and citizenship instead of consigning them to a rickety shadow financial system? Are you putting this much energy into, say, opposing border walls and supporting marginalized communities?

Yes, I think borders violate basic human rights and needlessly destroy lives and families.

Your argument that crypto is consuming too much opportunity cost is completely valid.

But why fight against something that offers hope for the misfortunate?

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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93% of prisoners are men[1], so it's pretty common that women do not face justice. [1] https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gende...

Would need to have more information before coming to such a conclusion, such as the proportion of crimes committed by men vs women, the types of crimes committed by men vs women, etc.

Same when comparing racial disparity in crime/prison.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

#530
His parents are law professors, themselves with hundreds of millions they must have gained from their son's activities. We know that they have at least 10s of millions of dollars in real estate to their names.

The probabilty that it's hubris, stupidity or privilege (all suggested in these comments) causing these interviews is less close to 1 than the probability it's a tactic to portray himself as a distracted lunatic with no notion of what happened under his watch.

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