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I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

Is there a smoking gun here that points the blame to any officials representing the party, as opposed to bad decisions made by twitter employees on their own bias? I find the tweetstorm format to be not particularly coherent, and I haven’t followed the story closely enough to know who the actors are, but Ro Khanna (a Democrat) is one of the names I recognize and he seems to be against the censoring.

Ro Khanna for President. The only politician with any moral compass.

Re: The Twitter Files

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It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

It shows collusion with politicians to coordinate censorship.

Wasn't that one of those things certain people deride as "conspiracy theories".

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Politicians should never be able to directly influence the moderation of social media items they find politically unfavorable; I don't care which party does it. I can understand something that involves direct threats/calls to violence, but that's about it. Anyone that has used Twitter for some time knows the moderation was often not all that even, not just by pure political means but also threats of violence etc were…

What if the content is illegally obtained personal material of the politician's civilian family members?

Then they can flag the offending post through twitter's reporting system like everyone else

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Seriously. Can people just make a blog post? Second long-ass Twitter thread today.

> Don’t miss what’s happening

> People on Twitter are the first to know.

> [Log in]

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Great way to share long essays /s

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I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

Good, don't ever choose a "side". "Sides" are for corralling people into manipulable herds. Every issue should be considered individually using logic and data, rather than following the blind recommendations of a "side" down the line.

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https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

Did you read your own source? The Biden team never asked Twitter staff to “handle” anything. They forwarded tweets that [violated twitter’s ToS][1], a Twitter staff member forwarded them for review, and at that point the reviewer said they “handled these.” That’s what content moderation is supposed to do! [1]: https://twitter.com/parkebench/status/1598841731763810304

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How is having a direct line to Twitter the most disconcerting thing for you? Of course they have a direct line. I expect that all major political parties, the white house, various legislative committees, etc... would all have a direct line to communicate with Twitter. It's explicitly said that both major parties had these lines of communication, so it's hard to see a problem with the existence of back-channel methods…

How about neither have a direct line? Trying to say censorship is fine as long as the current party in power also gets it like the last guy isn’t a persuasive argument. You can’t abuse power you don’t have. We stopped letting monarchs control things via backroom dealings with their elite friends back in the 1700s for a good reason. Creating a system with zero transparency that’s at the whims of whoever currently has…

Backchannels can be used for good. Both parties had back channels (simultaneously), so it's not like the availability for a back channel was restricted to the party in power. And so long as we are talking "requests" and not "demands", there is no issue. The lack of transparency is an issue though, which was kinda my point... informal systems don't have transparency.

But backchannels can certainly be helpful. Twitter is the backchannel for customer service for many companies. But let's take HN as another case.

How many times has HN been used as an informal mechanism to get Google to fix something? There are few formal methods to contact Google customer support, so having an informal method (HN) has been quite helpful.

Is this an optimal method? Certainly not, but the existence of an informal communication method to request a review of a tweet is not an issue.

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Seriously. Can people just make a blog post? Second long-ass Twitter thread today. > Don’t miss what’s happening > People on Twitter are the first to know. > [Log in] > [Sign up] Great way to share long essays /s

I think bytesize chunks has better absorption for twitter’s audience.
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