Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volterra

Post by osigurdson » Tue, Oct 25, 2022, 1:02 PM UTC

skohan wrote: post #481

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I wish macOS just was Linux.

What more *nix do you want on macOS than is already there? I can understand from the lockdown perspective (i.e. just give me a Vulkan driver on macOS) but as a polished DTE with a unix terminal I find it pretty decent.

Post by rbanffy » Tue, Oct 25, 2022, 1:11 PM UTC

my123 wrote: post #429

withinrafael wrote: post #420

This is Microsoft's second go at a developer-focused ARM kit. You may recall the first was called the Snapdragon Developer Kit [1] and was a miserable machine. It appears Microsoft has already pulled it from the Microsoft Store [2]. There is no other supported desktop/CI/etc. solution for Windows on ARM. (Mac mini with Parallels/VMware is a popular unsupported alternative. It may still be your fastest.) Seems like a…

Snapdragon Developer Kit was built with a "cost above all" mandate, $219 target pricing but it just wasn't powerful enough. > There is no other supported desktop/CI/etc. solution for Windows on ARM. (Mac mini with Parallels/VMware is a popular unsupported alternative. It may still be your fastest.) Azure cloud instances are also an option. > but I'm not sure if there's remaining appetite for Windows target-specific d…

Post by rbanffy » Tue, Oct 25, 2022, 1:14 PM UTC

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Exactly, this is priced very similarly to the Mac Mini with M1 (soon to be updated to use an M2) and can already run Linux fairly well.

It looks like a macmini

Post by my123 » Tue, Oct 25, 2022, 1:16 PM UTC

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I feel Microsoft is in a similar position to it’s windows phones in regards to ARM. Additionally they don’t have a system like Rosetta 2 to help with translation, a LOT of windows apps are x32/64 based, and there has to be an incentive for devs to make the switch, Apple faced this issue when moving from PPC, they used I believe Carbon to help, and over time took carbon off and forced devs to update to apples current…

> Additionally they don’t have a system like Rosetta 2 to help with translation They do. I'm not sure it covers x86-64 yet, but it does x86.

Post by csdvrx » Tue, Oct 25, 2022, 1:30 PM UTC

trog wrote: post #451

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I love windows and wanted to give it a try, but the lack of OLED option is bothering me. Can you comment about the battery life and the "traditional x86" workloads? Does it use a just-in-time compilation? (I haven't looked at the details yet) Can you dual boot to a Linux arm64 distribution?

> I love windows and wanted to give it a try, but the lack of OLED option is bothering me. My Dell XPS15 has an OLED, fwiw. It's a couple years old now but the latest models still have it (if you buy a 4K screen, anyway).