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Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by ddulaney »

hookey wrote: post #519

Honestly surprised by how much support this is getting, despite the devs' absurd views on open source[1]. Why anyone would choose this instead of Logseq is beyond me. [1]: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/open-sourcing-of-obsidian/1515/2...

I was considering Obsidian, and your comment worried me enough to investigate.

Looking through that link, though, I don't see anything too absurd. It's a closed-source app, which isn't ideal but is common enough. It looks like they have a Github repo that explicitly does not have the core source code but hosts some secondary files, and that's spelled out in the first couple lines of the readme.

Seems fine to me, overall. Maybe there's something objectionable I missed in there?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by xcambar »

hookey wrote: post #519

Honestly surprised by how much support this is getting, despite the devs' absurd views on open source[1]. Why anyone would choose this instead of Logseq is beyond me. [1]: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/open-sourcing-of-obsidian/1515/2...

Many reasons: * in logseq, everything is a list. In Obsidian, prose is first class citizen as well * The plugin API is simple and discovery of plugins is super well inregrated * I don't like Obsidian's business model either but it's a bunch of commited indie devs actively engaging with their community and the efforts are visible. Kudos for that. * The community of practitioners and contributors of plugins is just incredible.

Maybe some of it is true for logseq, but finding articles, tutorials, guidelines and examples for obsidian certainly contributes to it's success.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by veidr »

robbiet480 wrote: post #374
veidr wrote: post #90

Congratulations, and also: holy fucking shit!! no app has changed my day-to-day life to this degree in many, many years. I use Obsidian every morning on my roof deck for my journal (automated with the plugin, of course) and then at my desk all day long for my daily WTF blah blah info-capturing tool. Sure I wish it had more features (persist collapsed/expanded state, even in a best-effort, might-not-last-forever kind…

What plugin do you use for automatic journaling?

Automatic journaling is a built-in plugin called "Daily Notes".

You just enable it in the "Options → Core plugins" pane in the settings.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by Barrin92 »

Daunk wrote: post #415

I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but this is an honest question. What would I use Obsidian for? Is it just for writing stuff down? And if so; how would I access these notes on something like my phone? I tend to just write down things and store attachments in "Saved Messages" on Telegram. That way I can access it all via my phone, home computer, work computer or the web. How would Obsidian be better?

it has a bunch more features. links between notes (sort of like hyperlinks on a wiki), tags, calendar, reminders, todos, you can structure your notes in folders, daily notes, etc. There's also a ton of plugins for features from other note-taking apps.

They do provide mobile apps that work well but it's just markdown files so you can really access them however you want. I just have the entire vault in my Google Drive.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by juki »

wiennat wrote: post #513
InitialLastName wrote: post #504

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's strange how inconsistent Microsoft's PDF support is... Edge is essentially the best-in-class PDF markup app on Windows, but OneNote PDF support is soul-crushingly rudimentary. I guess expecting consistency from the org with 3+ mutually incompatible video call apps and 5 volume control panels was always a fool's errand, though.

I guess it is because Edge is using the one that comes with Chrome while OneNote has its own implementation.

> I guess it is because Edge is using the one that comes with Chrome

Is it? As far as I can tell, Chrome just has a plain PDF viewer with none of the annotation/highlighting/commenting/read-aloud features that Edge has.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by aussiesnack »

hookey wrote: post #519

Honestly surprised by how much support this is getting, despite the devs' absurd views on open source[1]. Why anyone would choose this instead of Logseq is beyond me. [1]: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/open-sourcing-of-obsidian/1515/2...

Have you considered that your personal ethos which appears to stipulate 'views on open source' as a prime criterion for choosing software may not actually be a human universal?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by boundlessdreamz »

whimsicalism wrote: post #340
BeFlatXIII wrote: post #247

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It’s not often that I see a mention of Workflowy in the wild. I know there is better out there, but Workflowy and Apple Notes are the ones I already use and I’m unsure whether the others are better enough to be worth the switching costs.

I find with extensions I can basically replicate the Workflowy experience in Obsidian.

Which extensions are you using for that?

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by emrah »

kepano wrote: post #403

I was an early user of Obsidian in May 2020, and have been absolutely blown away by how fast this tiny team of 2 people was able to build such a life-changing app. Using Obsidian fundamentally changed the way I think. It's also been fun to see how rapidly the plugin ecosystem has grown. The community is so friendly and creative. I have contributed a few things of my own, notably Minimal theme[0]. When I was asked to…

It looks great, amazing work! One small issue is the way the filename is displayed at the top as if it's the title. It may or may not be. The way it is now is very confusing though because many other apps follow the pattern "first line is the title" but in some cases it won't be in Obsidian

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by phforms »

rjzzleep wrote: post #496
phforms wrote: post #459

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I always feel like the term “outliner” misrepresents the approach to note-taking that tools like Logseq, (Org-)Roam, RemNote, etc. have chosen. I don’t really have/know a good alternative label, but there is so much more to it than just “outlining” your thoughts in a list of bullet points. Often when I write down my thoughts this way, it is more like following associative threads. I focus on a particular thought and…

org-roam or more generally org mode in emacs is less fixed in it's page structure than logseq. I think outliner is in fact the correct choice for logseq. You cannot move outside of the structure logseq provides for you for the files. org mode in emacs allows you to use any structure you want. So I think while outliner might be misplaced for emacs it is not for logseq.

Oh I forgot that Org-Roam is different in this regard than Roam since it is based on Org-mode. I don’t have much experience with it, but you are right, it is less fixed like Obsidian.

However, I think Org-mode’s headings (*, **, …) have great nesting and folding capabilities that are more similar to the structure Logseq or Roam provide, but I don’t like having to create a heading hierarchy for my thoughts, so its not really the same.

My critique was more that the term “Outliner” does not really describe how I work with tools like Logseq and Roam, since I don’t really outline my notes/thoughts but use nested bullets more like a focus hierarchy that helps me to “anchor” them in the context of a previous note/thought (I hope this makes sense).*

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