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Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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post #418

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If it doesn't update the old content on your old account, then is there a way to copy the old content to your new account?

I imagine that is what ggg-parent meant by: "it does involve down- and uploading and/or copypasting zips/datafiles."

Indeed.

Though it also involves migrating blocklist, followers, some settings, and such.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

#522

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Ya'll are describing SSB protocol and ManyVerse.

I just looked into SSB and I really like the concept. It seems much more elegant than Mastodon. Why is Mastodon/the Fediverse so much more popular (or is it?)? What are the advantages of federation over total decentralization? I suppose one disadvantage of total decentralization is the need for ‘fat clients’, as another commenter pointed out.

As you can see with Twitter, more popular doesn't mean better.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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post #75

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All of the above, plus little to no-one actually bothered to use it daily, with not enough users to even talk to and compared to Twitter, Mastodon has an extremely limited network effect. This explains why they have keep pulling content from and why they keep using Twitter and not the other way round.

Mastodon does not pull content from Twitter.

No, Mastodon 'users' have to keep linking tweets from Twitter in Mastodon more frequently and it is not the other way round on Twitter.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

#524

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>but claiming Twitter or Facebook will be shut down any time soon is laughable. He didn't say "anytime soon", you added that part.

> How will your argument hold up when f c book finishes dying? We'll find out soon enough. Sounds close enough to "anytime soon" for me.

It also doesn't have to be shut down entirely. It could morph into a form that doesn't work for a lot of people, but does for others (yet making meta more profitable).

I presume this Metaverse thing is that. Facebook may stop being the platform that serves every second person on earth a feed of images and text. Or stop being the place where we can communicate for free. Once profitability shifts to VR sets, virtual-asset markets and augmented advertising (or whatever markets emerge, if any)

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#525
post #445

> The server has also gotten too large and too complex for me to administer. I always suspected this would be a massive problem with Mastodon. I contemplated running a server, but there's no way to know beforehand when you'll be running into a limit, like cost or time. Can you really build a social network on volunteers that invest their own money and time, with little reward?

This has been a massive problem with everything since PHP stopped being popular. Wordpress is easy even for a layperson to setup

Sorry, but this simply isn't true. Hasn't been ever, really.

I say this as someone who set up and scaled one of Europe's large dedicated WordPress hosting platforms. Everything, from nginx-phpfpm to varnish to scaling that horrible mess of plugins and themes your Fiverr dev delivered beyond just five req/min.

It really isn't very easy. And certainly not simple.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

#526

This is one of the strengths of a federated system run by people who aren't looking to profit. Firstly, they care about their users and are more likely to take difficult decisions, like the one Ash has made, for the good of themselves and their users. In doing so everyone involved has time to make an orderly move. Secondly, the service survives. Mastodon didn't shut down. The Fediverse didn't close. One beloved insta…

>This is one of the strengths of a federated system run by people who aren't looking to profit.

And one of the weaknesses of a decentralized model compared to a distributed one.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

#528
It is time that monetization in tech becomes and absolute given again.

I was not part of this community but I wish all the best to OP and his family.

Money solves problems and it shouldn't be considered bad to ask for a little compensation for upholding a service that thousands of people benefit from. That's the basis of anything meant to be sustainable. (I know lichess.org is an exception but tbh nobody knows for how long that's going to work out well.)

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

#529

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I need to understand this obsession with "getting discovered via the application itself ". I mean, what's the problem of using other means of communication to publish/promote your identity? I am far from being internet famous, and I get at least one follower every week on Mastodon simply because I put it on my Twitter bio.

Then your Mastodon is totally dependent on getting discovered via twitter.

I'm sure that was just one example, not an exhaustive list of the single way people find this person on Mastodon.

Re: Mastodon.technology Shutdown

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post #478
post #457

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Fully p2p doesn't really work well either. For a fully p2p network, nodes will have to hold the entire data. Now first storage space taken will be ridiculous, and then you will be hosting content you don't want to host because it could be straight up illegal in your country. Look at any crypto-blockchain and count how many full-nodes vs thin-nodes are running in networks. Then there is the whole tragedy of commons: a…

Yeah, and there will be people that will just throw their porn collection there, hogging space on other people's drives for no good reason. There is an option of dividing it between "publisher" (source) and "cachers" (caching whatever is recent and popular) but that only helps a little bit. > Then there is the whole tragedy of commons: average seed ratios and streaming video players for torrent content shows that are…

All fair/valid points to consider. The closest example so far that I've found of a truly P2P online community is Aether: https://getaether.net
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