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Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by creatonez »

jbirer wrote: post #513

It's really funny to see third world freeloaders seethe in the comments about this. Heroku is a great service that deserves the money, and it's not your ticket out of poverty by freelancing online. The free tier being removed means less Ukrainian / Indian spammers and bitcoin mining attempts, which means more resources for the paying quality clients. Thanks Heroku!

Why is it so important to you to identify the third-worldness of the freeloaders you're referring to?

It's a bit unusual. Is identifying them as "freeloaders" not enough for the purpose of what you're saying? It's like... bringing recognition to the fact that some of them are trying to escape poverty via whatever means necessary, but then not actually following through with the moral implications of that.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by keehun »

bradgessler wrote: post #516
keehun wrote: post #511

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, thanks for your warm outreach and help! I'm trying to use the https://fly.io/launch/heroku page to migrate my heroku application. I am already a paying customer for heroku, but I want to switch based on their direction. I have authorized heroku access for fly.io page and yet no projects or applications appear in the last dropdown. Is there currently a known issue with this?

I can’t provide support here, but I can say next week I’m going to be cracking open the source code in that project to look into issues like this and figure out it I can’t get it to also move over the database. If you post about this at https://community.fly.io/ others in the same boat as you and other folks from Fly will see this and give you a better response.

Thanks for your quick response! I was able to work around the broken Turboku form and also get my database migrated to fly.io with a bit of adjustment period with flyctl. Just closed out my last invoice with Heroku and closed my account!

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by stjohnswarts »

copperx wrote: post #220
gkoberger wrote: post #177

We pay Heroku many, many tens of thousands of dollars a year. And I still use free dynos, both personally and at work. For example, throwing up a quick app for testing (where I'm happy with dynos that sleep or are limited per-repo). By pushing us off the Heroku ecosystem for some stuff, we might as well just move everything. The only reason we even use Heroku now is because I used it for free over a decade ago. I get…

Probably free plans have tons of overhead. If this results in drastically lower prices, I'm all for it.

Nah this is a bean counter decision, not an engineering or marketing decision. It will be bad mojo. There are a dozen other ways to cut down on the bogus/abusive accounts.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by creatonez »

danenania wrote: post #86
simonw wrote: post #43

An important detail: If you have a free PostgreSQL database running on Heroku it will be deleted three months from today. You'd better be paying attention to their emails! I think this is a particularly tough part of this. Heroku: please consider instead stashing a backup of that data somewhere, so that users who wake up on November 29th and find that their application has vanished can sign in and at least recover th…

For small enough DBs, they could even literally just email you the data zipped up as an attachment. I'd guess most hobby projects are a few MB if that. That said, I don't really get the feeling that Heroku is willing to put an ounce of extra effort into this, unfortunately.

Email is not actually private in many instances, so this might be an unworkable solution, possibly even a legal minefield too.

Maybe encrypt the email attachment with an encryption key that is only accessible behind Heroku's 2-factor login page? Problem is, it would probably still reveal basic metadata and database sizes.

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Post by pxeger1 »

effingwewt wrote: post #464
eastbound wrote: post #391

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What prevents adults from sharing movies from their GDrive, is the consciousness that Google might revoke this account, the backup account and all of your identity for life. Unfortunately, if you did this to youngsters, they’re too young to have read enough horror stories.

No, young kids use google for nothing other than search, and they are getting off that too. I'm more and more hearing 'search' or 'look up' instead of 'google' as a verb. My kid's circles of friends consider email to be like snail mail/phone calls- nothing but spam. I warned them about g-products for years while they were growing up, but I needn't have worried- they see g/fb/insta/snap et al for the garbage it is. Mo…

They seem to say "search up", in fact

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by droidist2 »

eastbound wrote: post #391
rjh29 wrote: post #383

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> It's likely also the reason Google's moved away from unlimited storage for educational institutions. Absolutely, piracy forums have guides to fake being a student to get an unlimited account, then mirror huge (1TB+) gdrives full of pirated content to your own. This was (is?) happening on a huge scale.

What prevents adults from sharing movies from their GDrive, is the consciousness that Google might revoke this account, the backup account and all of your identity for life. Unfortunately, if you did this to youngsters, they’re too young to have read enough horror stories.

Also if you revoke a student's campus Gmail, that might prevent them from completing their coursework and getting any correspondence from the school.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by habi »

aarondf wrote: post #15

Fly.io has a dedicated process for moving off of Heroku. Auth via Heroku and they'll launch your app onto Fly. They also have a free tier. The process: https://fly.io/launch/heroku The docs: https://fly.io/docs/app-guides/speed-up-a-heroku-app I haven't used it [the Heroku -> Fly process] myself, but it's been around for quite some time!

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I run an instance of https://www.monicahq.com on Heroku, which I use about once a week. Transferring it to fly.io was a breeze and I'll happily pay the $0.02 per GB of outbound data transfer (which I'll probably anyways never reach) instead of the 7$/month on Heroku.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by matus_congrady »

gregsadetsky wrote: post #459
matus_congrady wrote: post #327

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Would you mind elaborating on what does the "similar developer experience as with git push heroku master" mean for you? I'm a founder at https://stacktape.com , and we're trying to provide full power of AWS with a developer-friendly experience, similar to Heroku or serverless framework. Even after doing a ton of research, I'm still not 100% sure which of the Heroku's features are the killer features that the competin…

I'm a long time user of Heroku, have built on top of it as a developer, CTO, etc. My gut feeling from reading your homepage is that you're automating a lot of AWS service deployments on my behalf, but not "obfuscating" it that much from me either. Your pricing talks about "Resources" which I assume are either AWS services or instances of those services. The free plan says that a REST api needs 40 resources which seem…

Thanks a lot for the answer!

We have clarified what the "resources" are.

Every application (stack) deployed by Stacktape consists of multiple underlying AWS services (resources). For example a database instance, IAM role, auto-scaling policy, log group or a VPC subnet.

Stacktape does not limit the size/capacity (e.g. CPU, memory, GPU type or disk size) of the resources. You can use anything supported by AWS.

Also, the "git push heroku master" is similar to "stacktape deploy --stage production --region us-east-1".

The difference is that Stacktape can run on your system or on any CI/CD service and requires a (very simple) configuration.

I do understand that Stacktape might feel like it's not "as easy as Heroku". But what you trade in terms of simplicity, you get back 10 times in terms of control, flexibility and price reduction.

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