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Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by dexterdog »

wnevets wrote: post #334
jmyeet wrote: post #258

The two execs fired were: - Kayvon Beykpour, Head of Consumer Product (3 years, 11 months) [1]; and - Bruce Falck, Revenue Product Lead (5 years at Twitter, 3 years and 11 months in this position) [2] Kinda weird that both people were just shy of serving 4 years in their current roles. When I see moves like this my immediate thought is always, it's to save or make money. For example, there could be an options pool in…

Are there really no clauses in contracts or laws to prevent something like this? That sounds incredibly scummy.

Is it also scummy if they leave immediately after getting that payout?

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Post by Pxtl »

mdoms wrote: post #391
johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

> Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc Honestly not sure if you're being sarcastic. Fleets were killed within months of launch because they were awful and no one wanted them. Spaces will die when the nft bubble finishes collapsing. And topics are just a way to shoehorn crap no one wants onto their timelines without asking first.

What do spaces have to do with NFTs?

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Post by nickstinemates »

anonAndOn wrote: post #247
kyledrake wrote: post #189

I've been using Twitter since it's main novelty was that it was a successful Ruby on Rails app, and honestly I've been trying to figure out where the exit is for my personal use of Twitter lately. If the acquisition goes through, Twitter won't make enough money to service it's debt, and the things they will do to fix that are pretty much guaranteed to lower the quality of the platform, which frankly has never worked…

How much of the DAU do you think is bot driven? I suspect it's larger than a publicly traded stock company is willing to admit and that some of that cesspool rhetoric is Aktive Measures to provoke unrest. Perhaps taking Twitter private and removing the chorus of machines will actually make it a more pleasant experience. Content Mod is never easy but expunging the bot armies is a big first step.

>50% would be my guess

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by nickstinemates »

the_doctah wrote: post #509
Karawebnetwork wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit always has had community moderators which ensured that the subreddits were respecting the rules of their communities. For example, on LGBTQ issues subreddits telling people that they are groomers is not tolerated. If it was, people would quickly go away. While on some other subreddit, it might be tolerated but the targeted people are not present and will not see those messages. It is similar on Facebook where…

>I use hate-speech as an example because the "groomer" as a slur issue is at a peak right now and is fresh in my head. Mm. I think the problem is that censorship advocates like you try to add words like this into the lexicon of "hate speech" and try to have it censored. It's not, and it shouldn't be, and you should be ashamed of even thinking it. It is not other people's responsibility to stay up to date on what may…

on top of this, there is approved hate speech, you just have to use different words/dogwhistles like justice or privilege to activate it

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Post by hello_moto »

throwaway_2341 wrote: post #453
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #398

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This may be Parag's hail mary play to appease his new master and keep his lucrative job. I would not be surprised if his next move is to publicly extol the virtues of Free Speech and the First Amendment.

Honest question. Would a CEO be that desperate to keep his job? I imagine Parag can walk away with plenty after the buyout and do something else that he likes.

CEO jobs aren't plenty like standard SWE jobs.

CEOs typically don't apply for jobs, they can't walk into a company's Career page an apply as a CEO; they are headhunted by specialized headhunter.

Yes, CEO is desperate to keep their job because if they were to let go, they won't score a much higher profile job than their current; they'd be gone to a lower rank companies bidding their luck.

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Post by johannes1234321 »

partiallypro wrote: post #431
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This may be Parag's hail mary play to appease his new master and keep his lucrative job. I would not be surprised if his next move is to publicly extol the virtues of Free Speech and the First Amendment.

There is basically no way that Musk keeps him on, so I don't buy this. He will be replaced in due time once the acquisition is complete.

Even if Musk wouldn't fire him immediately Musk's management style likely will be quite involved and no fun if you don't align with Musk's goals and ideas.

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Post by the_doctah »

wfhordie wrote: post #237
kyledrake wrote: post #189

I've been using Twitter since it's main novelty was that it was a successful Ruby on Rails app, and honestly I've been trying to figure out where the exit is for my personal use of Twitter lately. If the acquisition goes through, Twitter won't make enough money to service it's debt, and the things they will do to fix that are pretty much guaranteed to lower the quality of the platform, which frankly has never worked…

I hope you’re right. I hope Elon takes over and turns into a cesspit . Burn it to the ground once and for all, let the public stare into the abyss that their fellow humans.

You're assuming it can get any worse than it already is

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Post by nickstinemates »

seydor wrote: post #343
kyledrake wrote: post #189

I've been using Twitter since it's main novelty was that it was a successful Ruby on Rails app, and honestly I've been trying to figure out where the exit is for my personal use of Twitter lately. If the acquisition goes through, Twitter won't make enough money to service it's debt, and the things they will do to fix that are pretty much guaranteed to lower the quality of the platform, which frankly has never worked…

Does twitter have a community? My use case for it is that of an RSS reader. I thought reddit was for community

twitter is the successor of irc, it's one giant channel with a firehose of information. in the same way #yourfavtopic on your fav $irc_server, community can be the point or the problem

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Post by Pxtl »

kyledrake wrote: post #189

I've been using Twitter since it's main novelty was that it was a successful Ruby on Rails app, and honestly I've been trying to figure out where the exit is for my personal use of Twitter lately. If the acquisition goes through, Twitter won't make enough money to service it's debt, and the things they will do to fix that are pretty much guaranteed to lower the quality of the platform, which frankly has never worked…

Realistically, I'll go where the conversation is happening. I mostly use Twitter to follow municipal politics and YIMBY activists in my city and province.

I also follow a bunch of artists and creatives see their work.

So I'll stay as long as that continues.

But a shitload of those creatives I follow are trans. More, now that a lot of them took the dead times of COVID shutdowns as an opportunity to transition in private. And if Twitter abandons its policy of blocking users that engage in hate-speech, I think a lot of those trans artists will be exiting the platform.

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Post by adamrezich »

johnboiles wrote: post #445
astrange wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spaces is a good feature. Topics is the worst thing I've been subjected to in my life. I have a second account in Japanese and Topics constantly adds posts about trashy American pop stars I barely know to the feed.

Agree. Spaces is good and the others not as much. Though I do use the 'War in Ukraine' topic a lot. The main diff though is that Twitter for a moment in time started taking some shots. Not that they were all the best shots. But for my first two years there it felt like the company took nearly 0 shots. That shift happened with Kayvon.

personally I'm very sick of the "perma-trending topics". "COVID-19: News and updates for $YOUR_LOCATION" still pops up in the sidebar here and there, and it's on the full trending topics list probably forever now?? like, guys, it's over, you can pull it now, I'm good thanks
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