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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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It would be cool to see Twitter unban the thousands of accounts I used to follow. I highly doubt Musk will have or is interested in having any real influence.

Which accounts? And how can you possibly think he isn't interested in having influence? I'll bet you a pretty penny that there will be a slew of "leadership changes" in the coming months.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#522

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you realize how short sighted this sounds? "I don't care what Elon does as long as it makes me money."

Why is that short sighted? That seems the opposite. If you had a money printer, wouldn't you give it a lot of freedom? Personally I'd draw the line at killing a dog or cat. Other than that, well... If it wanted to knock out a few walls, I'd just sigh and put up with the noise for a few months. (For context, I'm undecided about Elon. But none of the counterarguments to his behavior seem persuasive yet.)

Because short term gains at the cost of long term sustainability is simply putting off problems for the future.

Your money printer may print you money today, at the cost of putting you in jail for counterfitting tomorrow. It could result in the Mafia to come and break your legs to take it (and the money it printed) from you. Or greatly increase inflation (since mechanically, inflation is a result of more money being added than removed from circulation) in the future so your future earnings are worthless.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#523
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Good for TWTR but not great for its employees given how Elon runs his companies.

How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

He compensates below market and his employees are expected to work harder than big tech companies.

He can get away with it at SpaceX because, well, spaaacccceeee!

I'm not sure how he gets away with it at Tesla.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>A decent chunk of people in the previous thread were saying he’s doing it to kill the bot that tracks his plane’s movements Those people are idiots though. The kid said he would turn off the bot for $50k. You think Elon bought 9% of Twitter to avoid paying $50k?

I don't think it's about that, but I am absolutely sure that Musk would sooner pay 100x the cost in order to send a "fuck you" to someone that rankled him rather than take the ego hit and pay the 50k even if it's a pittance to him.

No it's because it's extremly simple to setup another account to do the exact same thing. You'd have 10 new ones the next day asking for the same amount.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where the implication that society is dependent on twitter is hidden in my comment. But no, society isn't dependent on twitter, is it relevant to society? Certainly.

Luckily your stating something with no actual argument points to support your statement doesn't hold any weight whatsoever to whether it has any truth to it or not.

You want argument points to support the idea that Twitter is relevant to society?

It is the fourth most visited site on the internet. It has well over three hundred million active users. It was one of the main methods of communication for the last sitting president of the united states. It is worth more than three billion dollars. It is currently what this subset of society in this thread is discussing because we find it relevant.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#527
post #141

Good for TWTR but not great for its employees given how Elon runs his companies.

How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

He's known for running his employees into the ground, generally treating people poorly. Pay is sub-par compared both to big tech for tech workers (although not really when the stock does well) and to skilled labor for laborers. You can compare ratings of the company on sites like Indeed to other big tech, and I'm sure you can find some articles about the working conditions (I recall some being published over the years).

My former boss went there, his whole team quit shortly after, he got promoted twice and made a boatload of money from stock grants, and now he's one of the higher ranked engineers and a few of his family members went to work there as well. But these guys are workaholics, brilliant but not humans of normal working capacity. I think it a lot depends on your expectations.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#528
post #141

Good for TWTR but not great for its employees given how Elon runs his companies.

How does Elon run his companies any differently than the vast majority of tech companies out there?

They have a culture of overwork and moving fast. I was looking at job postings for SpaceX & Tesla a couple years ago, and every single one of them explicitly mentioned that you will be expected to work more than standard work hours and put in time on weekends, which is very different from all the other companies that stress work life balance. I'm sure it works for a lot of people, but you should be sure of what you are getting into. And I don't expect employees will stay happy if/when the Musk stock rally stops.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#529

you're right, hopefully all those political woke people will go elsewhere. Then they can be replaced by people who believe in minimal oversight and free speech, and then twitter will be truly apolitical.

you mean an open field for CIA, FSB and MOSAD to perform psyops?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

#530
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I think Twitter's CEO summed it up well, and I agree: > He’s both a passionate believer and intense critic of the service which is exactly what we need on @Twitter, and in the boardroom, to make us stronger in the long-term. Welcome Elon! https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1511320964813910017

Those are just polite words. Why does a critic make Twitter stronger? And why is that needed?

A good critic points out flaws to fix. With fewer flaws the company is healthier.
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