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This sort of discussion never goes well, but using GoFundMe to finance occupations, especially across national borders , is an incredibly dangerous game. If a GoFundMe to harrass and harangue Ron DeSantis -- to effectively sponsor people to park outside his home and blast horns, among other things -- would he be okay with that? How about if Canadians paid millions for people to park on US interstates? Is that okay? T…
It's a protest not an occupation
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>"You do know that the vast majority of jobs in Canada do not require being vaccinated, right?" Well suddenly vast majority now does require COVID vaccination. It is forced even on people that never show up in the office. So if I were you I'd come up with some better arguments to advance the agenda.
> Well suddenly vast majority now does require COVID vaccination. Except that's not true.
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Even more stupid: Canadian media and Twitter users saying they are “fringe” because by a poll (totally no incentive to lie on those), 85% of truckers are vaccinated. To which I say: A. I bet more than 15% are unvaccinated because why answer honestly with Canada’s level of restrictions and penalties? B. If it is actually 15%, that’s not fringe, and also that’s low enough that dropping the mandate should be reasonable…
Others have already highlighted that you can be vaccinated and anti-mandate, which is what many people are focusing on. From a numbers perspective, 91.54% of Canadians 18+ have received at least one dose. 88.91% of 18+ have received two. It's /possible/ that truckers are widely unvaccinated (perhaps they all subscribe to the same train of thought), but it's unlikely.
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just because some people disagree with a policy does make it "political". I know someone that opposes seatbelt laws but that doesn't make them "political". That said I don't think it's productive to debate what "political" means.
All policy is political by definition. Also the shared etymology is a bit of a hint too. Observe thar policy-makers is used as a synonym for politicians.
Your definition would suggest public water utilities are "political" which sounds silly to me.
Google offers the definition
>relating to the ideas or strategies of a particular party or group in politics.
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> If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story. What if you have children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine?
COVID is at most as dangerous as a normal cold for kids. This is a fact. It’s not even controversial.
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Others have already highlighted that you can be vaccinated and anti-mandate, which is what many people are focusing on. From a numbers perspective, 91.54% of Canadians 18+ have received at least one dose. 88.91% of 18+ have received two. It's /possible/ that truckers are widely unvaccinated (perhaps they all subscribe to the same train of thought), but it's unlikely.
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Past explanations on this:
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> If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story. What if you have children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine?
Then you look at the data and see that: "Covid-19 has killed 280 children under 18 from January through September 2021, the time span in which the alpha and delta variants were active. Flu and pneumonia, heart disease, drowning, guns, and motor vehicles were all deadlier to children during the same time periods annually from 2015 to 2019 (the latest years with available data)[0]." [0]: https://www.vox.com/22699019/co…
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COVID is at most as dangerous as a normal cold for kids. This is a fact. It’s not even controversial.
Children are good at infecting others, for whom it may not be so harmless.
Why exactly should GoFundMe refund the money? How is this different from other fundraisers? I believe in vaccines but I don't understand why GoFundMe can't accept trucker donations.
The difference was likely the threat of GFM getting involved in expensive legal situations since the protests were growing increasingly violent. The Canadian Trucking Alliance itself pointed out that most of the protestors had no connection with trucking. Other investigations found a lot of the participants had ties to white nationalist movements.[0] GFM is in a tricky spot. They prolly realized being hated by ant va…
Also, this protest is not about being pro or anti vax. It is about mandates.